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Please forgive me my near-off-topic answer: Sure there are users out there without JS. There are still some IE6 users out there. But in most cases you need jus
by rmoriz 16y ago
Please forgive me my near-off-topic answer:
Sure there are users out there without JS. There are still some IE6 users out there. But in most cases you need just look at your target: If you build a SaaS service you probably focus on the early adopters, first movers or whatever you call them.
Old browser or obscure security settings are a niche. If your product focus on that niche - great, consider it in your technical setup.
After attending a horrible freelance project as a ruby/rails guy in 2009 I finally made a decision for all of my hopefully upcoming projects:
* focus on the early adopters who may understand your product without a big introduction. these people usually have the best and modern browsers available.
* optimize for Safari/Mac, Firefox and maybe Chrome
* optimize only for iPhone
* forget the rest until you have 100 paying customers. Then decide again. (100 is just a number, maybe 50, maybe 1000 — you decided)
BUT: If you know for sure, that most of your taget customers are using IE6/have no javascript support/whatever: Support it. But I doubt it.
And don't think that your startup will have the same % amounts of browsers/settings like the big sites on the web. Also keep in mind that people need to be able and willing to spend money. I can imagine someone without javascript and cookies will never (be able to) enter her/his payment information over the web into a form.
They'll be very conservative and in my opinion it's not worth the time to try to "convert" them.
TL;DR
Try to focus the easiest reachable solution only.
Know your potential customer's setup.
Be selective.
- _delirium 16y agoMy guess (though no stats) is that a decent proportion of the early-adopter/techie crowd actually has JS purposely off, via an extension like NoScript. Probably a bigger proportion than among "normal" people, though I assume still a smallish minority.
- prodigal_erik 16y agoThis, exactly. Don't assume I can't fill out a js-only form. I will if I decide to trust you. But I'm not likely to, when you have just demonstrated a lack of web authoring competence. In fact seeing who knows what they're doing is part of why I don't leave js enabled.