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This website really seems to have an agenda and isn't a source I would qualify as good journalism. For anyone who's interested in the story, here's an intervie

This website really seems to have an agenda and isn't a source I would qualify as good journalism. For anyone who's interested in the story, here's an interview with the professor. Admittedly, from an interviewer who's pretty on board with her ideas. https://theeducatorsroom.com/mathematics-political-post-session-rochelle-gutierrez/ https://theeducatorsroom.com/mathematics-political-post-sess...

oconnore 9y ago
> "seems to have an agenda" Understatement of the year... the featured article is "Trump Jr. says universities teach students to hate America".
dogruck 9y ago
Thanks for the link -- I had not seen that before. Still, it does not look like she backs away from her statements. For example, she says: > So, just like, there’s not a lot of incentive for Whites to interrogate Whiteness as the norm and as the right way to have society set up, there’s not a lot of incentive for mathematicians and math teachers to interrogate this unearned status that mathematics has in society. Do you disagree? Do you think the original article that I linked mischaracterized the Professor's statements and opinions?
- jdpigeon 9y ago
  No, I was actually pretty surprised by how ridiculous some of her statements sounded. Still, encouraging traffic to a site like campusreform.com makes me feel queasy.
  - dogruck 9y ago
    I agree. My other related articles all cited that one though. Disturbing.
  - creaghpatr 9y ago
    ^attacking the source for lack of better arguement
  - dogruck 9y ago
    This might be the most wacky quote from the interview: > For instance, in Papua New Guinea they have a base 16 system and … it’s the body … the body is the calculator…so, when somebody’s counting it’s the body that’s being enacted. So, what does that mean when we receive a singular version of mathematics both from the point of view of European mathematics, but also from the point of view of what counts as school mathematics.
    - AstralStorm 9y ago
      And we have base 24 and base 60 on clocks. Straight from Babylon. So what? Base 10 is not a modern invention either. School mathematics teaches mostly about white people because a lot of actually written down math was for by them. (By them we still use a bunch of theorems and notations invented by Chinese and Arabs. Some Indian too.) The problem is related to other people not using written media as much and/ or taking a back seat during 18th through early 20th century. This is changing again, where Chinese and Indian mathematicians are getting well known again. Why not say Zimbabwean? Answer is trivial, economics and wars.

oconnore 9y ago

> "seems to have an agenda" Understatement of the year... the featured article is "Trump Jr. says universities teach students to hate America".

dogruck 9y ago

Thanks for the link -- I had not seen that before. Still, it does not look like she backs away from her statements. For example, she says: > So, just like, there’s not a lot of incentive for Whites to interrogate Whiteness as the norm and as the right way to have society set up, there’s not a lot of incentive for mathematicians and math teachers to interrogate this unearned status that mathematics has in society. Do you disagree? Do you think the original article that I linked mischaracterized the Professor's statements and opinions?

jdpigeon 9y ago
No, I was actually pretty surprised by how ridiculous some of her statements sounded. Still, encouraging traffic to a site like campusreform.com makes me feel queasy.
- dogruck 9y ago
  I agree. My other related articles all cited that one though. Disturbing.
- creaghpatr 9y ago
  ^attacking the source for lack of better arguement
- dogruck 9y ago
  This might be the most wacky quote from the interview: > For instance, in Papua New Guinea they have a base 16 system and … it’s the body … the body is the calculator…so, when somebody’s counting it’s the body that’s being enacted. So, what does that mean when we receive a singular version of mathematics both from the point of view of European mathematics, but also from the point of view of what counts as school mathematics.
  - AstralStorm 9y ago
    And we have base 24 and base 60 on clocks. Straight from Babylon. So what? Base 10 is not a modern invention either. School mathematics teaches mostly about white people because a lot of actually written down math was for by them. (By them we still use a bunch of theorems and notations invented by Chinese and Arabs. Some Indian too.) The problem is related to other people not using written media as much and/ or taking a back seat during 18th through early 20th century. This is changing again, where Chinese and Indian mathematicians are getting well known again. Why not say Zimbabwean? Answer is trivial, economics and wars.