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> the iPhone 8 is pretty underwhelming The 8 might well be a 7s, in all but name, but is hardly underwhelming as compared other incremental iPhone releases in

> the iPhone 8 is pretty underwhelming The 8 might well be a 7s, in all but name, but is hardly underwhelming as compared other incremental iPhone releases in my view. For me, it's a bigger improvement to my everyday use of the device by a mile than: 6: larger screen (maybe an exception for this reason) 6s: 3d touch; 2nd gen touch ID 7: jack-less; splash proof; shiny option 8: Heavier/premium feel, wireless charging, much bigger performance bump than usual The 8 is the first phone where the phone can pretty much keep up with my thoughts, which makes it an incredibly different experience. The rhythm of using the device is just an order of magnitude different. The 8 is forgettably underwhelming on its spec sheet (except speed), a marvel and delight in person. Bottom line for me is that the spec sheet is increasingly irrelevant to my satisfaction with a device. I also have zero desire to be the guinea pig for all the new stuff on trial in the X. edited: fixed touch id introduction -- thanks

gurkendoktor 9y ago
Is the iPhone 8 on iOS 11 merely faster than other phones running iOS 11, or faster than, for example, an iPhone 5s running iOS 7? I think (but this might be my rose-tinted glasses) that every iPhone since the 3GS ran everything at 60 FPS, and that app launches were mostly limited by the launch animation, until each phone got its first major update. The one obvious outlier is the iPad Pro 10.5 with its 120 Hz display, where everything is smoother than it could possibly be on older devices. I'd love to see data on this that's more accurate than sketchy YouTube comparisons.
- randallsquared 9y ago
  It's blazing fast in comparison to a 6 Plus running iOS 10. Doesn't exactly answer your question, but perhaps it's a bit of evidence.
- ballenf 9y ago
  I've used iPhones since the 3gs, and the iPhone 8 allows me to be more productive than any modern phone (had the Samsung S4, s5 and an early Google nexus device) I've owned since the blackberry. I'm sure iOS 12 will slow it down, but for now I feel like my productivity is finally getting back to Blackberry days. My nostalgia for the instant response of those devices has grown over the past few years as phone os's and apps have become increasingly bloated. I really think there'd be a market for an email / messaging only device intended to be carried along side a phone if it did that one thing very well.
randallsquared 9y ago
I had a 6 Plus (which has Touch ID) for the last couple years, bought just before the 6S launched, and my main complaint with it was that I had to build in a slight pause to every non-keyboard touch to ensure that the phone had caught up. This didn't even always work, if it was slightly slower that day. I bought the 8 Plus, as I had no desire to lose Touch ID, and I've been quite impressed with the speed improvement. The pauses are almost always unnecessary, now, and I would say that the phone keeps up with what I want more than 50% of the time, which with the 6 Plus was "almost never". The 8 Plus camera is also noticeably better even for someone who doesn't pay much attention to photo quality. People have remarked how I've learned to take better pictures. I haven't.
pbh101 9y ago
Small nitpick: Touch ID was introduced in the 5s.

gurkendoktor 9y ago

Is the iPhone 8 on iOS 11 merely faster than other phones running iOS 11, or faster than, for example, an iPhone 5s running iOS 7? I think (but this might be my rose-tinted glasses) that every iPhone since the 3GS ran everything at 60 FPS, and that app launches were mostly limited by the launch animation, until each phone got its first major update. The one obvious outlier is the iPad Pro 10.5 with its 120 Hz display, where everything is smoother than it could possibly be on older devices. I'd love to see data on this that's more accurate than sketchy YouTube comparisons.

randallsquared 9y ago
It's blazing fast in comparison to a 6 Plus running iOS 10. Doesn't exactly answer your question, but perhaps it's a bit of evidence.
ballenf 9y ago
I've used iPhones since the 3gs, and the iPhone 8 allows me to be more productive than any modern phone (had the Samsung S4, s5 and an early Google nexus device) I've owned since the blackberry. I'm sure iOS 12 will slow it down, but for now I feel like my productivity is finally getting back to Blackberry days. My nostalgia for the instant response of those devices has grown over the past few years as phone os's and apps have become increasingly bloated. I really think there'd be a market for an email / messaging only device intended to be carried along side a phone if it did that one thing very well.

randallsquared 9y ago

I had a 6 Plus (which has Touch ID) for the last couple years, bought just before the 6S launched, and my main complaint with it was that I had to build in a slight pause to every non-keyboard touch to ensure that the phone had caught up. This didn't even always work, if it was slightly slower that day. I bought the 8 Plus, as I had no desire to lose Touch ID, and I've been quite impressed with the speed improvement. The pauses are almost always unnecessary, now, and I would say that the phone keeps up with what I want more than 50% of the time, which with the 6 Plus was "almost never". The 8 Plus camera is also noticeably better even for someone who doesn't pay much attention to photo quality. People have remarked how I've learned to take better pictures. I haven't.

pbh101 9y ago

Small nitpick: Touch ID was introduced in the 5s.