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You only consent to allow delivery people into your home, not the police. The 4th amendment doesn't have a trickery loophole, your reasonable expectation of pri

by eqmvii 9y ago

You only consent to allow delivery people into your home, not the police. The 4th amendment doesn't have a trickery loophole, your reasonable expectation of privacy is always with respect to the police, not to other businesses and people you give trust to. The police can't set up a fake carwash and then warrantlessly search all of the cars that show up just because you're handing over the keys and consenting to let strangers in. Your home would be no different. Another, perhaps better example: a landlord typically has a set of keys and the right to access a tenant's apartment. In a commercial building, those keys could be held by any number of "strangers" on the maintenance staff. The police still need a warrant, they can't just ask the landlord for a set of keys. That's really not any different from having the "keys" held by Amazon staff members. There are lots of instances where a person's expectation of privacy is low with respect to specific people/businesses but high with respect to the government, and that doesn't weaken their 4th amendment protections.

DarronWyke 9y ago
This is correct. Also a good overall note here is that the Constitution only applies between the government and the people. Private entities (businesses, for example) are not beholden to respect your rights. A point to bring up with regards to landlords is that both State law and contract law (your lease) enable them to enter the dwelling under very special circumstances, usually such as an immediate threat to life. They may also enter to do various tasks such as inspections but laws usually mandate notice that must be given and how. Here in Texas, it's a minimum of 24 hours written notice for the latter.
patentatt 9y ago
For all those reading this, remember that you should never rely on Internet forums for legal advice, the poster above may or may not be a lawyer, but is certainly not your lawyer.
- jakewalker 9y ago
  And there are multiple inaccuracies in all of these replies.
- nathancahill 9y ago
  No bamboozle?
- EADGBE 9y ago
  "The choice of a lawyer is an important decision and should not be based solely upon advertisements."
ThrowawayR2 9y ago
> You only consent to allow delivery people into your home, not the police. However, IIRC, if the delivery people (or landlord, in your second example) choose to report to law enforcement anything criminal that they see in your home _of their own free will_ and without any prior arrangement with police, that evidence would be admissible and could be used to obtain a warrant. It's not that much different from past cases where Best Buy technicians found illegal material on computers brought in to them for servicing and reported it to police and resulted in successful prosecutions.
- alasdair_ 9y ago
  >It's not that much different from past cases where Best Buy technicians found illegal material on computers brought in to them for servicing and reported it to police and resulted in successful prosecutions. Those technicians were hired and trained by the FBI to seek out this information. There are ongoing lawsuits claiming this was illegal.
  - 659087 9y ago
    > Those technicians were hired and trained by the FBI to seek out this information. Do you think the government is going to pass up the opportunity to do the same with Amazon employees? That is, assuming Amazon hasn't already approached the government to offer it as a service.
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by eqmvii 9y ago

DarronWyke 9y ago

This is correct. Also a good overall note here is that the Constitution only applies between the government and the people. Private entities (businesses, for example) are not beholden to respect your rights. A point to bring up with regards to landlords is that both State law and contract law (your lease) enable them to enter the dwelling under very special circumstances, usually such as an immediate threat to life. They may also enter to do various tasks such as inspections but laws usually mandate notice that must be given and how. Here in Texas, it's a minimum of 24 hours written notice for the latter.

patentatt 9y ago

For all those reading this, remember that you should never rely on Internet forums for legal advice, the poster above may or may not be a lawyer, but is certainly not your lawyer.

jakewalker 9y ago
And there are multiple inaccuracies in all of these replies.
nathancahill 9y ago
No bamboozle?
EADGBE 9y ago
"The choice of a lawyer is an important decision and should not be based solely upon advertisements."

ThrowawayR2 9y ago

> You only consent to allow delivery people into your home, not the police. However, IIRC, if the delivery people (or landlord, in your second example) choose to report to law enforcement anything criminal that they see in your home _of their own free will_ and without any prior arrangement with police, that evidence would be admissible and could be used to obtain a warrant. It's not that much different from past cases where Best Buy technicians found illegal material on computers brought in to them for servicing and reported it to police and resulted in successful prosecutions.

alasdair_ 9y ago
>It's not that much different from past cases where Best Buy technicians found illegal material on computers brought in to them for servicing and reported it to police and resulted in successful prosecutions. Those technicians were hired and trained by the FBI to seek out this information. There are ongoing lawsuits claiming this was illegal.
- 659087 9y ago
  > Those technicians were hired and trained by the FBI to seek out this information. Do you think the government is going to pass up the opportunity to do the same with Amazon employees? That is, assuming Amazon hasn't already approached the government to offer it as a service.

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