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Hatreon is an alternative that has no speech policing.

randomname2 9y ago
Hatreon has also extended an open invite to these content creators: https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/922833371075620866 https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/922833371075620866
- dvhh 9y ago
  the stream provide interesting information for the context. they use Stripe for payment and Stripe apparently does not allow "Adult content and services" ( https://stripe.com/us/prohibited-businesses https://stripe.com/us/prohibited-businesses ) among other things.
anc84 9y ago
That name can't be serious but a trolling attempt?
- freshhawk 9y ago
  Go to the site and have a look at "Featured Creators": Stormfront, Daily Stormer and Richard Spencer will be recognizable to anyone these days. Most of the rest (like Andrew Auernheimer aka Weev) are recognizable to the more online of us. Should make the name and the trollish nature of the name make more sense to know that. It isn't not serious. It was invite only at the beginning, marketed as the place for the alt-right when Patreon enforced their policies on some high profile people, and those invites went out to specific people so take their whole "open to anyone with no speech limits" with a mountain of salt.
  - noobermin 9y ago
    "Free Speech" has become in the current vernacular as merely being right wing hate speech.
    - freshhawk 9y ago
      I'm convinced that is partly a tactic like the milk and OK sign stuff. Partly serious and based on a real disagreement about hate speech, partly laughing at embracing something and watching everyone else decide that now they have to absolutely denounce it. Then they do something like organize a campaign of complaints against leftist and vocal anti-alt-right Prof. Ciccariello-Maher at Drexel for his speech, get him put on leave, and laugh at the centrist and leftist rubes falling over themselves in confusion.
corobo 9y ago
It's a good idea with an awful name on it. My first flash thought was a place for funding hate. It did click a moment later that it's a play on the Patreon name more "I hate Patreon" but it just feels.. wrong.
- badlucklottery 9y ago
  >My first flash thought was a place for funding hate. That's unfortunately not a bad guess. Go check out some of their "featured creators". It's pretty much the bottom of the hate speech barrel.
  - corobo 9y ago
    Ah so it suffers from (or targets) the reddit->voat problem where a userbase is comprised solely of those rejected from the normal site[]. [] Please forgive the use of the word normal, I couldn't think of a better word. "Default site" or maybe "usual site" might work better
    - icebraining 9y ago
      Original site, maybe.
    - JCharante 9y ago
      What's wrong with normal? The more popular site is the normal one when it comes to finding content creators. Hatrons or voaters aren't going to be triggered by the use of the word "normal".
      - corobo 9y ago
        Peoples' triggerings aren't my concern, my concern is not conveying what I mean accurately and getting bogged down in the nitty gritty of how I say things rather than what I'm saying
  - dmerfield 9y ago
    They're the hardest people to defend and that's exactly why their freedom of speech needs to be defended. When you can't say 'fuck', you can't say 'fuck the draft': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California

Hatreon has also extended an open invite to these content creators: https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/922833371075620866 https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/922833371075620866

dvhh 9y ago
the stream provide interesting information for the context. they use Stripe for payment and Stripe apparently does not allow "Adult content and services" ( https://stripe.com/us/prohibited-businesses https://stripe.com/us/prohibited-businesses ) among other things.

anc84 9y ago

That name can't be serious but a trolling attempt?

freshhawk 9y ago
Go to the site and have a look at "Featured Creators": Stormfront, Daily Stormer and Richard Spencer will be recognizable to anyone these days. Most of the rest (like Andrew Auernheimer aka Weev) are recognizable to the more online of us. Should make the name and the trollish nature of the name make more sense to know that. It isn't not serious. It was invite only at the beginning, marketed as the place for the alt-right when Patreon enforced their policies on some high profile people, and those invites went out to specific people so take their whole "open to anyone with no speech limits" with a mountain of salt.
- noobermin 9y ago
  "Free Speech" has become in the current vernacular as merely being right wing hate speech.
  - freshhawk 9y ago
    I'm convinced that is partly a tactic like the milk and OK sign stuff. Partly serious and based on a real disagreement about hate speech, partly laughing at embracing something and watching everyone else decide that now they have to absolutely denounce it. Then they do something like organize a campaign of complaints against leftist and vocal anti-alt-right Prof. Ciccariello-Maher at Drexel for his speech, get him put on leave, and laugh at the centrist and leftist rubes falling over themselves in confusion.

corobo 9y ago

It's a good idea with an awful name on it. My first flash thought was a place for funding hate. It did click a moment later that it's a play on the Patreon name more "I hate Patreon" but it just feels.. wrong.

badlucklottery 9y ago
>My first flash thought was a place for funding hate. That's unfortunately not a bad guess. Go check out some of their "featured creators". It's pretty much the bottom of the hate speech barrel.
- corobo 9y ago
  Ah so it suffers from (or targets) the reddit->voat problem where a userbase is comprised solely of those rejected from the normal site[]. [] Please forgive the use of the word normal, I couldn't think of a better word. "Default site" or maybe "usual site" might work better
  - icebraining 9y ago
    Original site, maybe.
  - JCharante 9y ago
    What's wrong with normal? The more popular site is the normal one when it comes to finding content creators. Hatrons or voaters aren't going to be triggered by the use of the word "normal".
    - corobo 9y ago
      Peoples' triggerings aren't my concern, my concern is not conveying what I mean accurately and getting bogged down in the nitty gritty of how I say things rather than what I'm saying
- dmerfield 9y ago
  They're the hardest people to defend and that's exactly why their freedom of speech needs to be defended. When you can't say 'fuck', you can't say 'fuck the draft': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California