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"By the time Apple drops iOS support for a device, it's already starting to show its age" Not really. My iPad3 no longer gets updates, but has great battery li

"By the time Apple drops iOS support for a device, it's already starting to show its age" Not really. My iPad3 no longer gets updates, but has great battery life, and runs common games and apps fine. It's fast enough for most web browsing, has retina screen and no reason whatsoever to be abandoned. iOS Safari is not a great browser, it could be improved to run better on a device such as iPad3, but that doesn't suit Apple and their focus on native apps. Now that Apple has stopped all updates for this device, my only option is to jailbreak and hope I can install an updated web browser. It's pathetic and irresponsible that Apple abandons its own products, no security patches, no nothing. They are like Facebook - they only care about "now" and "tomorrow". If you're a customer from yesterday, you are worthless.

scarface74 9y ago
Not really. My iPad3 no longer gets updates, but has great battery life, and runs common games and apps fine. It's fast enough for most web browsing, has retina screen and no reason whatsoever to be abandoned. How has it been abandoned? My 1st gen iPad is still supported by iTunes (the computer app), all of Apple services (App Store, iCloud, iBooks, etc.) and starting in 2013, you've been able to download the last compatible version. iOS Safari is not a great browser, it could be improved to run better on a device such as iPad3, How? Which browser could handle today's web pages with 256MB (my iPad) or 512Mb RAM (the third gen iPad) and no virtual memory . It's pathetic and irresponsible that Apple abandons its own products, no security patches, no nothing.* The iPad 3 was introduced in 2012 and received its last update August of 2016. How many apps that you use every day have become unusable? If my iPad 1 can still run Netflix, Hulu, Crackle, Spotify, all of Apple's productivity apps, etc. I'm assuming a 3rd generation iPad running iOS 9.3.5 would be more usable. They are like Facebook - they only care about "now" and "tomorrow". If you're a customer from yesterday, you are worthless. Apple has the best history of OS support in the industry. iOS 11 supports the iPhone 5S released in 2013. All of Apples services still support your iPad. What can't you do on your iPad that you want to do?
- exodust 9y ago
  Your argument in defence of Apple's strategy is an odd line to take. The point you've missed is that when Apple stops releasing OS updates, all the built-in apps and programs also suffer the same fate, such as Safari web browser. Some websites are starting to use ES6 javascript in some circumstances. Certain ES6 methods are not supported in browsers older than 2017. Valve's Steam website is one example, the preview videos and slideshow on each game page do not load because the highlight player now uses ES6 javascript. Newer iPads see the player, "older" iPads do not. There is absolutely no reason why this needs to be the case. Browser updates and patches for some built-in programs should be offered even when the OS is no longer updated.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    The point you've missed is that when Apple stops releasing OS updates, all the built-in apps and programs also suffer the same fate, such as Safari web browser. You are saying Apple's programs --- which programs besides Safari need to be updated to support "modern" standards? The mail client on my first gen iPad can still connect to any mail server - including Exchange servers. The same for the calendar app. You can still download the last compatible version of apps from the App Store and download any music, movie, or book from the iTunes, iBook store. The Podcast app that was a separate download for iOS 5, still syncs playlists as well (badly) as the newest version of iOS. The iOS Maps app that originally used Google Map data still works. The Maps app still works with my first gen iPod Touch and has more updated satellite data than my brand new iPad using Apple Maps. Apple even hacked in a way to support two factor authentication in older iOS devices that wouldn't show a separate field for the authentication code - you enter your password+authentication code. All of their productivity apps like Pages, Numbers, and Keynotes still work, you can still save documents and open them with the newest version on the newest Macs via iCloud. You can still Airplay from a 1st gen iPad to a brand new Apple TV. As far as Safari, if it crashes on complicated sites now and is unusable with iPads with low memory now, don't you think it would be more crash prone trying to render more complicated sites? I'm using the worse case scenario - having the first generation iPad with the least memory (256Mb of RAM). I've used my 2017 iPad next to my 2010 iPad. The only real difference in Apple's built in apps as far as usability is that Web pages render a lot faster, Safari doesn't crash and you can keep multiple tabs open without constant reloading -- all due to hardware improvements -- not "patching" the browser.

scarface74 9y ago

Not really. My iPad3 no longer gets updates, but has great battery life, and runs common games and apps fine. It's fast enough for most web browsing, has retina screen and no reason whatsoever to be abandoned. How has it been abandoned? My 1st gen iPad is still supported by iTunes (the computer app), all of Apple services (App Store, iCloud, iBooks, etc.) and starting in 2013, you've been able to download the last compatible version. iOS Safari is not a great browser, it could be improved to run better on a device such as iPad3, How? Which browser could handle today's web pages with 256MB (my iPad) or 512Mb RAM (the third gen iPad) and no virtual memory . It's pathetic and irresponsible that Apple abandons its own products, no security patches, no nothing.* The iPad 3 was introduced in 2012 and received its last update August of 2016. How many apps that you use every day have become unusable? If my iPad 1 can still run Netflix, Hulu, Crackle, Spotify, all of Apple's productivity apps, etc. I'm assuming a 3rd generation iPad running iOS 9.3.5 would be more usable. They are like Facebook - they only care about "now" and "tomorrow". If you're a customer from yesterday, you are worthless. Apple has the best history of OS support in the industry. iOS 11 supports the iPhone 5S released in 2013. All of Apples services still support your iPad. What can't you do on your iPad that you want to do?

exodust 9y ago
Your argument in defence of Apple's strategy is an odd line to take. The point you've missed is that when Apple stops releasing OS updates, all the built-in apps and programs also suffer the same fate, such as Safari web browser. Some websites are starting to use ES6 javascript in some circumstances. Certain ES6 methods are not supported in browsers older than 2017. Valve's Steam website is one example, the preview videos and slideshow on each game page do not load because the highlight player now uses ES6 javascript. Newer iPads see the player, "older" iPads do not. There is absolutely no reason why this needs to be the case. Browser updates and patches for some built-in programs should be offered even when the OS is no longer updated.
- scarface74 9y ago
  The point you've missed is that when Apple stops releasing OS updates, all the built-in apps and programs also suffer the same fate, such as Safari web browser. You are saying Apple's programs --- which programs besides Safari need to be updated to support "modern" standards? The mail client on my first gen iPad can still connect to any mail server - including Exchange servers. The same for the calendar app. You can still download the last compatible version of apps from the App Store and download any music, movie, or book from the iTunes, iBook store. The Podcast app that was a separate download for iOS 5, still syncs playlists as well (badly) as the newest version of iOS. The iOS Maps app that originally used Google Map data still works. The Maps app still works with my first gen iPod Touch and has more updated satellite data than my brand new iPad using Apple Maps. Apple even hacked in a way to support two factor authentication in older iOS devices that wouldn't show a separate field for the authentication code - you enter your password+authentication code. All of their productivity apps like Pages, Numbers, and Keynotes still work, you can still save documents and open them with the newest version on the newest Macs via iCloud. You can still Airplay from a 1st gen iPad to a brand new Apple TV. As far as Safari, if it crashes on complicated sites now and is unusable with iPads with low memory now, don't you think it would be more crash prone trying to render more complicated sites? I'm using the worse case scenario - having the first generation iPad with the least memory (256Mb of RAM). I've used my 2017 iPad next to my 2010 iPad. The only real difference in Apple's built in apps as far as usability is that Web pages render a lot faster, Safari doesn't crash and you can keep multiple tabs open without constant reloading -- all due to hardware improvements -- not "patching" the browser.