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I wish I could install whatever I want on my phone without jailbreaking it. Let us have an option hidden in the settings (just like developer options) so we can

I wish I could install whatever I want on my phone without jailbreaking it. Let us have an option hidden in the settings (just like developer options) so we can install anything we want without permission or without the app expiring in a few days. It's my damn phone!

scarface74 9y ago
You can install any piece of code you want on your phone. If it's open source, you can download XCode, compile from source and put it on your own device without paying for a developer's license. I'm not going to install some random piece of closed source software that couldn't make it through Apple's review process. No I'm not treating my phone differently than my computer. I have no random software on my computer from untrusted sources. I even bought my last Dell from the Microsoft store so I wouldn't have random crapware on it.
- michaelmrose 9y ago
  You can install anything you want supposing the developer releases it in the wild as source with no hope of making money off AND no hope of normal users making use of it. Doesn't sound useful to me.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    How much money do you really think a developer can make without going through the App Store? Can you name one successful profitable Android app that isn't sold in the Google Play Store even though Android devices have been able to sideload for years?
    - flukus 9y ago
      > How much money do you really think a developer can make without going through the App Store? A lot. Your mistake here is in thinking that all software is direct to consumer. Being able to install software without going through a store is very important for a lot of small to medium business that have custom or customized software. You can do it with android, you could do it with windows mobile in the 90's, it's mostly just apple that want to exert so much control over you.
      - scarface74 9y ago
        It's been available for years.... https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/DistributingEnterpriseProgramApps/DistributingEnterpriseProgramApps.html https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/ID...
- shakna 9y ago
  > I even bought my last Dell from the Microsoft store so I wouldn't have random crapware on it. ... Yet Microsoft's retail version of Windows 10 still comes with PUPs, like the nigh-impossible-to-uninstall Candy Crush Saga. You would assume then that Microsoft must have well-vetted CCS. However, it's been a vector of attacks, including a time when it dumped a trojan out during it's reinstall process.
andrepd 9y ago
>It's my damn phone! Correction: it should be your damn phone. As it stands, it's their damn phone; they're merely being gracious enough to let you use it in the limits they prescribe. And you're paying for the privilege!

scarface74 9y ago

You can install any piece of code you want on your phone. If it's open source, you can download XCode, compile from source and put it on your own device without paying for a developer's license. I'm not going to install some random piece of closed source software that couldn't make it through Apple's review process. No I'm not treating my phone differently than my computer. I have no random software on my computer from untrusted sources. I even bought my last Dell from the Microsoft store so I wouldn't have random crapware on it.

michaelmrose 9y ago
You can install anything you want supposing the developer releases it in the wild as source with no hope of making money off AND no hope of normal users making use of it. Doesn't sound useful to me.
- scarface74 9y ago
  How much money do you really think a developer can make without going through the App Store? Can you name one successful profitable Android app that isn't sold in the Google Play Store even though Android devices have been able to sideload for years?
  - flukus 9y ago
    > How much money do you really think a developer can make without going through the App Store? A lot. Your mistake here is in thinking that all software is direct to consumer. Being able to install software without going through a store is very important for a lot of small to medium business that have custom or customized software. You can do it with android, you could do it with windows mobile in the 90's, it's mostly just apple that want to exert so much control over you.
    - scarface74 9y ago
      It's been available for years.... https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/DistributingEnterpriseProgramApps/DistributingEnterpriseProgramApps.html https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/ID...
shakna 9y ago
> I even bought my last Dell from the Microsoft store so I wouldn't have random crapware on it. ... Yet Microsoft's retail version of Windows 10 still comes with PUPs, like the nigh-impossible-to-uninstall Candy Crush Saga. You would assume then that Microsoft must have well-vetted CCS. However, it's been a vector of attacks, including a time when it dumped a trojan out during it's reinstall process.

andrepd 9y ago

>It's my damn phone! Correction: it should be your damn phone. As it stands, it's their damn phone; they're merely being gracious enough to let you use it in the limits they prescribe. And you're paying for the privilege!