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This article is illogical. It simultaneously calls the report "non-partisan" while also pointing out that the current administration disagrees with it. Further

This article is illogical. It simultaneously calls the report "non-partisan" while also pointing out that the current administration disagrees with it. Furthermore, it gives the impression that the cost of every natural disaster is being associated with climate change. Lastly, I do not see any mention of what it would cost to implement so-called climate change prevention strategies. For that, they would have to acknowledge that this is a global issue.

artpepper2 9y ago
Somebody disagrees with 'x' does not make 'x' partisan.
- dogruck 9y ago
  Finding one (moderate) Republican congressperson and one Democratic congressperson who will sponsor a report also does not make it "non-partisan" which is a clear attempt to characterize it as "not political"
  - aidenn0 9y ago
    The GAO is obviously political, but that doesn't make it partisan. A non-political GAO would be rather odd, since it exists specifically to inform congress as to the impact of policies.
aidenn0 9y ago
Non-partisan doesn't mean nobody disagrees with it. If well established practices and fact are disputed by one party, that doesn't make it objective to abandon them. If non-partisan means splitting the difference between the major parties, then there would be an incentive for each party to tack as far away from center in order to sway the GAO.
- dogruck 9y ago
  Nonpartisan means not associated with a political party. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonpartisanism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonpartisanism If the entire Trump administration disagrees with it, I think it it's fair to say that his political party is not on board. The article/report is leveraging one Republican (moderate Susan Collins) to label it as nonpartisan.
  - unethical_ban 9y ago
    If the Trump EPA says the sun appears blue to everyone, then is it a partisan issue to say they're incorrect? Partisan means pushing a political agenda based on ideology or party. NOT that a particular party agrees or disagrees with them.
    - dogruck 9y ago
      You're using the straw man argument, which is vacuous. You are also ignoring the correct definition of nonpartisan, which I linked above.
      - aidenn0 9y ago
        Not much of a straw man, since we are nearly certain about the fact that mean temperatures are rising as we are about the color of the sun. Whether or not the changing climate is anthropogenic is somewhat less certain, (and more politically contentious), but we ought to be able to discuss the effects of these absent the cause without calling a report partisan.
      - unethical_ban 9y ago
        It's called analogy, and I believe I am still correct. If a report aligns with a particular party, that does not make it partisan. The motivations and affiliations of an organization may make it "left leaning" or "right leaning", but the GAO is pretty well established as non-partisan.
  - aidenn0 9y ago
    The GAO is not associated with a political party. It meets that definition. In particular: > in most cases, nonpartisan refers specifically to political party connections rather than being the strict antonym of "partisan".

artpepper2 9y ago

Somebody disagrees with 'x' does not make 'x' partisan.

dogruck 9y ago
Finding one (moderate) Republican congressperson and one Democratic congressperson who will sponsor a report also does not make it "non-partisan" which is a clear attempt to characterize it as "not political"
- aidenn0 9y ago
  The GAO is obviously political, but that doesn't make it partisan. A non-political GAO would be rather odd, since it exists specifically to inform congress as to the impact of policies.

aidenn0 9y ago

Non-partisan doesn't mean nobody disagrees with it. If well established practices and fact are disputed by one party, that doesn't make it objective to abandon them. If non-partisan means splitting the difference between the major parties, then there would be an incentive for each party to tack as far away from center in order to sway the GAO.

dogruck 9y ago
Nonpartisan means not associated with a political party. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonpartisanism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonpartisanism If the entire Trump administration disagrees with it, I think it it's fair to say that his political party is not on board. The article/report is leveraging one Republican (moderate Susan Collins) to label it as nonpartisan.
- unethical_ban 9y ago
  If the Trump EPA says the sun appears blue to everyone, then is it a partisan issue to say they're incorrect? Partisan means pushing a political agenda based on ideology or party. NOT that a particular party agrees or disagrees with them.
  - dogruck 9y ago
    You're using the straw man argument, which is vacuous. You are also ignoring the correct definition of nonpartisan, which I linked above.
    - aidenn0 9y ago
      Not much of a straw man, since we are nearly certain about the fact that mean temperatures are rising as we are about the color of the sun. Whether or not the changing climate is anthropogenic is somewhat less certain, (and more politically contentious), but we ought to be able to discuss the effects of these absent the cause without calling a report partisan.
    - unethical_ban 9y ago
      It's called analogy, and I believe I am still correct. If a report aligns with a particular party, that does not make it partisan. The motivations and affiliations of an organization may make it "left leaning" or "right leaning", but the GAO is pretty well established as non-partisan.
- aidenn0 9y ago
  The GAO is not associated with a political party. It meets that definition. In particular: > in most cases, nonpartisan refers specifically to political party connections rather than being the strict antonym of "partisan".