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Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? > random guys buying bulk ingredients o

by d0lph 9y ago

Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? > random guys buying bulk ingredients on Amazon and mixing them up in moldy warehouses Is this based on something, because I highly doubt they are sourcing ingredients from amazon, this is needlessly inflammatory. And moldy warehouses, do you really have so little to say about Soylent you have to make things up?

mrgoldenbrown 9y ago
Soylent has had multiple, well publicized problems with mold and at least one instance of journalists finding rats running around the factory floor. https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+moldy https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+moldy https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+rats https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+rats
- d0lph 9y ago
  There was one journalist that found rats in the kitchen, during the beta phase of soylent. Presumably when they hit production they used standard manufacturing techniques. The mold is unfortunate, but only with Soylent 2.0, the pre-made bottles. As soon as they found out they issued a recall, like any responsible company.
mcguire 9y ago
Their initial setup was filmed. https://pando.com/2013/11/12/vice-investigates-soylent-finds-rats-and-mold/ https://pando.com/2013/11/12/vice-investigates-soylent-finds...
- d0lph 9y ago
  I thought it was a bit sketchy you linked to an article about an article, instead of the directly linking to the article itself. > A few of the packets were infested with mold, but that didn't bother me; I was a beta tester after all, and the packaging hadn't been finalized yet. It'd gotten punctured en route somehow, and moisture had got in—which did highlight its vulnerability to mold, an important point given that Rob touts its non-spoiling benefits as a solution to sending nutritious food to far-flung places. So, while they were developing their product, in beta stage a few packets got moldy? That's what beta is for! Finding these issues, then resolving them. Kinda funny reading the original article clears all this up, unlike the propaganda piece you posted.
freeflight 9y ago
> Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? The tube feeds [0] are pretty much exactly that. Those Fresenius ones are not flavored but other manufacturers, like HiPP/Abbot, even have flavored tube feed, as some tube patients like having the flavor come up when they have to burp. A step closer are the "nutritional supplements", which is a weird name for it in German we call it "Trinknahrung" which literally translates to "liquid nutrition". These are usually flavored and come in a variety of forms, like powder or even puddings. I've "eaten" the stuff sometimes for diet or after tooth operations, it's pretty okayish when cold, like a milkshake. The biggest issue is that you have to be really careful about how fast you drink it until your digestive system adapted to the high-calorie contents, as drinking too much too fast will also make it come out too fast, so to speak. [0] http://www.fresenius-kabi.co.uk/4347.htm http://www.fresenius-kabi.co.uk/4347.htm
- d0lph 9y ago
  Where can I buy a tube feed exactly? Do you have any examples of Trinknahrung?
  - freeflight 9y ago
    Pharmacies, Amazon, even eBay. Afaik Fresubin 2Kcal DRINK is the highest calorie Trinknahrung from Fresenius. Amazon.com doesn't offer that many, what's there is quite expensive [0]. Never realized this stuff is so rare outside Germany, until now. In contrast, Amazon.de has a wide selection of different high caloric Trinknahrung, the Fresenius stuff even has Prime delivery [1]. [0] https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fresubin+2kcal https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Da... [1] https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_17?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=trinknahrung+hochkalorisch&sprefix=trinknahrung+hoch%2Caps%2C153&crid=2TY33GKVB5M6O&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atrinknahrung+hochkalorisch https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_17?__mk_de_DE=%C3%8...
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by d0lph 9y ago

mrgoldenbrown 9y ago

Soylent has had multiple, well publicized problems with mold and at least one instance of journalists finding rats running around the factory floor. https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+moldy https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+moldy https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+rats https://www.google.com/search?q=soylent+rats

d0lph 9y ago
There was one journalist that found rats in the kitchen, during the beta phase of soylent. Presumably when they hit production they used standard manufacturing techniques. The mold is unfortunate, but only with Soylent 2.0, the pre-made bottles. As soon as they found out they issued a recall, like any responsible company.

mcguire 9y ago

Their initial setup was filmed. https://pando.com/2013/11/12/vice-investigates-soylent-finds-rats-and-mold/ https://pando.com/2013/11/12/vice-investigates-soylent-finds...

d0lph 9y ago
I thought it was a bit sketchy you linked to an article about an article, instead of the directly linking to the article itself. > A few of the packets were infested with mold, but that didn't bother me; I was a beta tester after all, and the packaging hadn't been finalized yet. It'd gotten punctured en route somehow, and moisture had got in—which did highlight its vulnerability to mold, an important point given that Rob touts its non-spoiling benefits as a solution to sending nutritious food to far-flung places. So, while they were developing their product, in beta stage a few packets got moldy? That's what beta is for! Finding these issues, then resolving them. Kinda funny reading the original article clears all this up, unlike the propaganda piece you posted.

freeflight 9y ago

> Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients? The tube feeds [0] are pretty much exactly that. Those Fresenius ones are not flavored but other manufacturers, like HiPP/Abbot, even have flavored tube feed, as some tube patients like having the flavor come up when they have to burp. A step closer are the "nutritional supplements", which is a weird name for it in German we call it "Trinknahrung" which literally translates to "liquid nutrition". These are usually flavored and come in a variety of forms, like powder or even puddings. I've "eaten" the stuff sometimes for diet or after tooth operations, it's pretty okayish when cold, like a milkshake. The biggest issue is that you have to be really careful about how fast you drink it until your digestive system adapted to the high-calorie contents, as drinking too much too fast will also make it come out too fast, so to speak. [0] http://www.fresenius-kabi.co.uk/4347.htm http://www.fresenius-kabi.co.uk/4347.htm

d0lph 9y ago
Where can I buy a tube feed exactly? Do you have any examples of Trinknahrung?
- freeflight 9y ago
  Pharmacies, Amazon, even eBay. Afaik Fresubin 2Kcal DRINK is the highest calorie Trinknahrung from Fresenius. Amazon.com doesn't offer that many, what's there is quite expensive [0]. Never realized this stuff is so rare outside Germany, until now. In contrast, Amazon.de has a wide selection of different high caloric Trinknahrung, the Fresenius stuff even has Prime delivery [1]. [0] https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fresubin+2kcal https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Da... [1] https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_17?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=trinknahrung+hochkalorisch&sprefix=trinknahrung+hoch%2Caps%2C153&crid=2TY33GKVB5M6O&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atrinknahrung+hochkalorisch https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_17?__mk_de_DE=%C3%8...
  - d0lph 9y ago