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> Yes there are adapters for now but they're transitional and we can expect them to eventually go away. Unlikely. The headphone market is huge and these device

> Yes there are adapters for now but they're transitional and we can expect them to eventually go away. Unlikely. The headphone market is huge and these devices are expected to work with everything, from mobile devices to AV Receivers, DACs, amps and studio equipment. The headphone jack isn't going anywhere. > Only music you have purchased through your phone's marketplace may be played, and only to an authorized device. I doubt it. The music industry is pretty open these days and has given up on DRM for a long time - you can buy DRM-free, lossless music from countless places and while I understand that purchasing music has become rare, your scenario would be a dealbreaker for anyone that still does and truly owns their music. That might be a small share, but still a significant crowd. It would render the device close to useless for people like me. This is a whole other level compared to the compromise of an adapter.

fehrm 9y ago
> > Yes there are adapters for now but they're transitional and we can expect them to eventually go away. > Unlikely. The headphone market is huge and these devices are expected to work with everything, from mobile devices to AV Receivers, DACs, amps and studio equipment. The headphone jack isn't going anywhere. > > Only music you have purchased through your phone's marketplace may be played, and only to an authorized device. > I doubt it. The music industry is pretty open these days and has given up on DRM for a long time - you can buy DRM-free, lossless music from countless places and while I understand that purchasing music has become rare, your scenario would be a dealbreaker for anyone that still does and truly owns their music. That might be a small share, but still a significant crowd. It would render the device close to useless for people like me. This is a whole other level compared to the compromise of an adapter. For how long, until they come up with a new report that shows the margins are decreasing and they new ways to earn money?
brian-armstrong 9y ago
What do you mean it isn't going anywhere? It's already gone. People who have discrete equipment are vastly in the minority and won't have any choices left anyway once every phone maker has dropped the jack. Plus, how often do you see an iPhone plugged into an AVR?
- thirdsun 9y ago
  I mean that the jack will remain the default connector headphones regardless of what the iPhone or any other phone does, since headphones have other devices to consider. Will there be Apple-only headphones with lightning conenctor? Sure. But any pair of serious cans will be expected to work on any device and that means it will use the headphone jack. You'll simply need an adapter to use them with mobile devices. > Plus, how often do you see an iPhone plugged into an AVR? I'm talking about the headphone's connector.

fehrm 9y ago

> > Yes there are adapters for now but they're transitional and we can expect them to eventually go away. > Unlikely. The headphone market is huge and these devices are expected to work with everything, from mobile devices to AV Receivers, DACs, amps and studio equipment. The headphone jack isn't going anywhere. > > Only music you have purchased through your phone's marketplace may be played, and only to an authorized device. > I doubt it. The music industry is pretty open these days and has given up on DRM for a long time - you can buy DRM-free, lossless music from countless places and while I understand that purchasing music has become rare, your scenario would be a dealbreaker for anyone that still does and truly owns their music. That might be a small share, but still a significant crowd. It would render the device close to useless for people like me. This is a whole other level compared to the compromise of an adapter. For how long, until they come up with a new report that shows the margins are decreasing and they new ways to earn money?

brian-armstrong 9y ago

What do you mean it isn't going anywhere? It's already gone. People who have discrete equipment are vastly in the minority and won't have any choices left anyway once every phone maker has dropped the jack. Plus, how often do you see an iPhone plugged into an AVR?

thirdsun 9y ago
I mean that the jack will remain the default connector headphones regardless of what the iPhone or any other phone does, since headphones have other devices to consider. Will there be Apple-only headphones with lightning conenctor? Sure. But any pair of serious cans will be expected to work on any device and that means it will use the headphone jack. You'll simply need an adapter to use them with mobile devices. > Plus, how often do you see an iPhone plugged into an AVR? I'm talking about the headphone's connector.