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Researchers want you to pirate their paper as often as possible. You can only cite papers you've read, after all. The only royalty check I've ever seen from re

by rspeer 9y ago

Researchers want you to pirate their paper as often as possible. You can only cite papers you've read, after all. The only royalty check I've ever seen from research I did is for a chapter of a book, and it was less than a dollar. Royalties don't matter.

eesmith 9y ago
"You can only cite papers you've read, after all." In practice, people cite unread papers pretty often. In some cases, the paper they cite doesn't even exist. http://blog.codalism.com/index.php/citing-papers-that-youve-never-read-or-that-were-never-written/ http://blog.codalism.com/index.php/citing-papers-that-youve-... gives an example of a non-existent paper which had been cited 215 times. http://judgestarling.tumblr.com/post/100771670031/seven-citations-of-a-paper-that-doesnt-exist-has http://judgestarling.tumblr.com/post/100771670031/seven-cita... gives some more examples of citations for papers which don't exist. The top rated answer at https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/45295/is-it-unethical-to-cite-a-paper-or-book-that-you-have-never-looked-at https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/45295/is-it-une... argues: > When you cite a source, you are not actually claiming that you have read it. What you are actually doing is staking your professional reputation on that source containing the information that you claim that it contains. I don't recall a paper ever being retracted because it cited a background paper which doesn't exist.
yosamino 9y ago
> The only royalty check [...] was less than a dollar. And to think that royalty is usually associated with crowns and gold and jewels and such ...
- eesmith 9y ago
  Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" (1958), p14 in my copy: "I remember once, when the money baskey was empty, Dad told Mother that "a royalty was due." I hung around that day because I had never seen a king (I was eight) and when a visitor showed up I was disappointed because he didn't wear a crown. There was money in the basket the next day so I decided that he had been incognito (I was reading The Little Lame Prince) and had tossed Dad a purse of gold-it was at least a year before I found out that a "royalty" could be money from a patent or a book or business stock, and some of the glamour went out of life."
jccalhoun 9y ago
I can't tell you how many times I've spent hours tracking down the source of a quote only to find that either the "quote" is really just a paraphrase of someone's work that someone else mistook for a quote or that the "quote" from source A is really in source B but is actually source B quoting source C
xtracto 9y ago
A friend of mine just published a book in a technology press editorial. The royalty for the book is about $1 US Dollar. And the book is listed on Amazon at $50 USD paper-back.

by rspeer 9y ago

eesmith 9y ago

"You can only cite papers you've read, after all." In practice, people cite unread papers pretty often. In some cases, the paper they cite doesn't even exist. http://blog.codalism.com/index.php/citing-papers-that-youve-never-read-or-that-were-never-written/ http://blog.codalism.com/index.php/citing-papers-that-youve-... gives an example of a non-existent paper which had been cited 215 times. http://judgestarling.tumblr.com/post/100771670031/seven-citations-of-a-paper-that-doesnt-exist-has http://judgestarling.tumblr.com/post/100771670031/seven-cita... gives some more examples of citations for papers which don't exist. The top rated answer at https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/45295/is-it-unethical-to-cite-a-paper-or-book-that-you-have-never-looked-at https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/45295/is-it-une... argues: > When you cite a source, you are not actually claiming that you have read it. What you are actually doing is staking your professional reputation on that source containing the information that you claim that it contains. I don't recall a paper ever being retracted because it cited a background paper which doesn't exist.

yosamino 9y ago

> The only royalty check [...] was less than a dollar. And to think that royalty is usually associated with crowns and gold and jewels and such ...

eesmith 9y ago
Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" (1958), p14 in my copy: "I remember once, when the money baskey was empty, Dad told Mother that "a royalty was due." I hung around that day because I had never seen a king (I was eight) and when a visitor showed up I was disappointed because he didn't wear a crown. There was money in the basket the next day so I decided that he had been incognito (I was reading The Little Lame Prince) and had tossed Dad a purse of gold-it was at least a year before I found out that a "royalty" could be money from a patent or a book or business stock, and some of the glamour went out of life."

jccalhoun 9y ago

I can't tell you how many times I've spent hours tracking down the source of a quote only to find that either the "quote" is really just a paraphrase of someone's work that someone else mistook for a quote or that the "quote" from source A is really in source B but is actually source B quoting source C

xtracto 9y ago

A friend of mine just published a book in a technology press editorial. The royalty for the book is about $1 US Dollar. And the book is listed on Amazon at $50 USD paper-back.