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I will neither admit nor deny supplying my credentials to Sci-hub.

by dotdi 9y ago

arghwhat 9y ago
Keep up the good work.
afandian 9y ago
I don't think you'll have to. Both hidden and conspicuous watermarks are common in trade book PDF downloads. RIAA members poisoned the Bit Torrent well. I'm neutral on the matter, but there are some obvious paths of recourse for publishers who don't want people sharing their credentials. (Disclaimer: I work for Crossref, which is an organisation in the scholarly publishing space.)
- snowpanda 9y ago
  Does only Crossref do this? I'm asking because a friend of mine who's enrolled in 2 colleges, just downloaded the same scholarly PDF (one that's also available through sci-hub) with 2 different college credentials and they had the same sha256sum. Then when he tried it through sci-hub, he also got the same sha256sum.
  - afandian 9y ago
    Crossref doesn't do anything at all in relation to SciHub or watermarking PDFs. We don't host content. (I'm happy to talk about what we do do, but it's off-topic) Sorry if my disclaimer wasn't clear. I was just pointing out affiliation as standard on HN.
- Typhon 9y ago
  In any case, some researchers have claimed that Sci-Hub obtained their credentials through phishing. I don't know if it's true but in any case, such claims provide plausible deniability against that kind of watermarking proof, don't they ?
- auggierose 9y ago
  Nah, that doesn't work for academic papers. You usually access them anonymously anyway through your institution (which has a subscription). So even if they watermark (and I don't think they do), they can only watermark the institution.
  - afandian 9y ago
    There are plenty of instances of big-name publishers sending nastygrams to whole institutions and/or cutting them off for perceived abuse.
    - auggierose 9y ago
      In that case the institution should unsubscribe and point their members to sci-hub.
- kanzure 9y ago
  > Both hidden and conspicuous watermarks are common in trade book PDF downloads https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia

I will neither admit nor deny supplying my credentials to Sci-hub.

by dotdi 9y ago

I will neither admit nor deny supplying my credentials to Sci-hub.

arghwhat 9y ago

Keep up the good work.

afandian 9y ago

I don't think you'll have to. Both hidden and conspicuous watermarks are common in trade book PDF downloads. RIAA members poisoned the Bit Torrent well. I'm neutral on the matter, but there are some obvious paths of recourse for publishers who don't want people sharing their credentials. (Disclaimer: I work for Crossref, which is an organisation in the scholarly publishing space.)

snowpanda 9y ago
Does only Crossref do this? I'm asking because a friend of mine who's enrolled in 2 colleges, just downloaded the same scholarly PDF (one that's also available through sci-hub) with 2 different college credentials and they had the same sha256sum. Then when he tried it through sci-hub, he also got the same sha256sum.
- afandian 9y ago
  Crossref doesn't do anything at all in relation to SciHub or watermarking PDFs. We don't host content. (I'm happy to talk about what we do do, but it's off-topic) Sorry if my disclaimer wasn't clear. I was just pointing out affiliation as standard on HN.
Typhon 9y ago
In any case, some researchers have claimed that Sci-Hub obtained their credentials through phishing. I don't know if it's true but in any case, such claims provide plausible deniability against that kind of watermarking proof, don't they ?
auggierose 9y ago
Nah, that doesn't work for academic papers. You usually access them anonymously anyway through your institution (which has a subscription). So even if they watermark (and I don't think they do), they can only watermark the institution.
- afandian 9y ago
  There are plenty of instances of big-name publishers sending nastygrams to whole institutions and/or cutting them off for perceived abuse.
  - auggierose 9y ago
    In that case the institution should unsubscribe and point their members to sci-hub.
kanzure 9y ago
> Both hidden and conspicuous watermarks are common in trade book PDF downloads https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia