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Give up privacy? I thought it was with Android that I could root and remove all proprietary services (using e.g. F-Droid, LineageOS). Plus, you can set the wind

Give up privacy? I thought it was with Android that I could root and remove all proprietary services (using e.g. F-Droid, LineageOS). Plus, you can set the window/transition animation scale to anything you want. The only thing iOS had for me was reliability and that seems to have gone out the window recently.

saurik 9y ago
Being able to use an exploit to get root on your Android device is every bit as annoying as being able to use an exploit to get root on an iOS device (particularly as "getting root" isn't even enough on either device: you need to disable a bunch of random OS-level protections with a kernel exploit). There are a small number of Android devices with an unlocked bootloader, but in reality that just means "the Nexus devices from Google that people on Hacker News often complain about the shitty customer service regarding" as the other devices with this property aren't worth buying (and the flagship devices from Samsung--the ones people want to buy with the epic cameras and the great screens--are of course all locked and while they still aren't quite as competent at it they are at least trying hard at their anti-user "security" measures).
- worble 9y ago
  Nearly all the Sony phones have bootloaders to my knowledge, and I have personally always loved their build quality too. Not to mention they're one of the few manufacturers that still allow you to have a microSD instead of paying through your nose for extra onboard storage, so they're my personal recommendation.
- zwerdlds 9y ago
  You can buy certain OEM android devices not only rooted, but with unlocked bootloaders. It'll be a cold day in hell when Apple does anything remotely similar.
Yetanfou 9y ago
The only thing iOS had for me was reliability Android and Android apps are more reliable than iOS and iOS apps [1]. Depending on who you believe this has been the case for a long time [2][3] or is a recent trend [4]. As Android vs iOS is the mobile equivalent of vi vs emacs it is not easy to find objective reporting on the subject. [1] https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=android+ios+crashes https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=android+ios+crash... [2] http://www.technologizer.com/2012/02/06/which-phone-os-crashes-more-its-not-android/ http://www.technologizer.com/2012/02/06/which-phone-os-crash... [3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/#1e1fb0b05385 https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-... [4] http://fortune.com/2016/08/25/apple-ios-failure-rate/ http://fortune.com/2016/08/25/apple-ios-failure-rate/

saurik 9y ago

Being able to use an exploit to get root on your Android device is every bit as annoying as being able to use an exploit to get root on an iOS device (particularly as "getting root" isn't even enough on either device: you need to disable a bunch of random OS-level protections with a kernel exploit). There are a small number of Android devices with an unlocked bootloader, but in reality that just means "the Nexus devices from Google that people on Hacker News often complain about the shitty customer service regarding" as the other devices with this property aren't worth buying (and the flagship devices from Samsung--the ones people want to buy with the epic cameras and the great screens--are of course all locked and while they still aren't quite as competent at it they are at least trying hard at their anti-user "security" measures).

worble 9y ago
Nearly all the Sony phones have bootloaders to my knowledge, and I have personally always loved their build quality too. Not to mention they're one of the few manufacturers that still allow you to have a microSD instead of paying through your nose for extra onboard storage, so they're my personal recommendation.
zwerdlds 9y ago
You can buy certain OEM android devices not only rooted, but with unlocked bootloaders. It'll be a cold day in hell when Apple does anything remotely similar.

Yetanfou 9y ago

The only thing iOS had for me was reliability Android and Android apps are more reliable than iOS and iOS apps [1]. Depending on who you believe this has been the case for a long time [2][3] or is a recent trend [4]. As Android vs iOS is the mobile equivalent of vi vs emacs it is not easy to find objective reporting on the subject. [1] https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=android+ios+crashes https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=android+ios+crash... [2] http://www.technologizer.com/2012/02/06/which-phone-os-crashes-more-its-not-android/ http://www.technologizer.com/2012/02/06/which-phone-os-crash... [3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/#1e1fb0b05385 https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-... [4] http://fortune.com/2016/08/25/apple-ios-failure-rate/ http://fortune.com/2016/08/25/apple-ios-failure-rate/