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I think matrix forms a nice basis for a secure chat platform. Only the apps are not really all that good. The desktop apps are electron based and the android ap

I think matrix forms a nice basis for a secure chat platform. Only the apps are not really all that good. The desktop apps are electron based and the android app is just not up to par with telegram or WhatsApp.

DiThi 9y ago
In a lot of regards, the "not up to par" part of riot.im or matrix is the lack of a contact list (or simulated equivalent with same UX). IMHO it's the usability problem #1, and the reason for our team not to switch yet. The issue[0] should receive more attention. [0] https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/4488 https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/4488
Arathorn 9y ago
this isn't strictly true - there's a new generation of desktop apps which are native Qt and looking really nice, e.g. https://github.com/mujx/nheko https://github.com/mujx/nheko. In terms of the Android app; we're working on it as fast as we can (but it's a one man team atm).
drdaeman 9y ago
I don't know if it's the app, server or protocol problem but the last time I've evaluated Matrix (Sep 19, based on logs) as a possible Telegram/WhatsApp/Skype/Discord replacement there were some weird issues with "Unable to decrypt: The sender's device has not sent us the keys for this message" even after both parties verifying the fingerprints. I've used a desktop/Electron Riot client, the other party had used the web version. Restarting the Riot had helped me to see the new messages, but not the old ones (which feels to be a correct behavior in regards to PFS). The actual problem is other party didn't knew I had issues receiving their messages until I've contacted them out-of-band - conversation looked just normal from the other side (except for me writing "test test" and not replying any meaningfully). We ended up with a decision to try Matrix again sometimes later. Like, next year.

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I think matrix forms a nice basis for a secure chat platform. Only the apps are not really all that good. The desktop apps are electron based and the android ap

by pingiun 9y ago

DiThi 9y ago
In a lot of regards, the "not up to par" part of riot.im or matrix is the lack of a contact list (or simulated equivalent with same UX). IMHO it's the usability problem #1, and the reason for our team not to switch yet. The issue[0] should receive more attention. [0] https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/4488 https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/4488
Arathorn 9y ago
this isn't strictly true - there's a new generation of desktop apps which are native Qt and looking really nice, e.g. https://github.com/mujx/nheko https://github.com/mujx/nheko. In terms of the Android app; we're working on it as fast as we can (but it's a one man team atm).
drdaeman 9y ago
I don't know if it's the app, server or protocol problem but the last time I've evaluated Matrix (Sep 19, based on logs) as a possible Telegram/WhatsApp/Skype/Discord replacement there were some weird issues with "Unable to decrypt: The sender's device has not sent us the keys for this message" even after both parties verifying the fingerprints. I've used a desktop/Electron Riot client, the other party had used the web version. Restarting the Riot had helped me to see the new messages, but not the old ones (which feels to be a correct behavior in regards to PFS). The actual problem is other party didn't knew I had issues receiving their messages until I've contacted them out-of-band - conversation looked just normal from the other side (except for me writing "test test" and not replying any meaningfully). We ended up with a decision to try Matrix again sometimes later. Like, next year.