>> the real world is messy, very messy. > Cannot disagree -but- it's nowhere near as messy as the people (often those who are to blame) defending the byzantine

>> the real world is messy, very messy. > Cannot disagree -but- it's nowhere near as messy as the people (often those who are to blame) defending the byzantine software stacks using that argument. This. As a still relatively young developer, I can almost guarantee you that the initial reaction of "nuke it from orbit!!!" doesn't come from a couple of minor abstraction problems. You get this reaction when every second bug you try to fix ends in a trip to Klendathu.