So I generally agree, even within SF itself, basically nothing outside a tiny area of downtown is the height it could be. Tons of the bay area is under built. T

So I generally agree, even within SF itself, basically nothing outside a tiny area of downtown is the height it could be. Tons of the bay area is under built. The regulatory environment is a nightmare. There is intense fear that any new building will bring newcomers that will destroy the community. That said... San Jose and Oakland both definitely have downtown portions with 20 story + buildings. RWC has been building bigger too.