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I'm curious about Japanese support which I think goes beyond locale. Japanese often uses 24 hour times like 18:00 vs 6:00pm and while I see you can specify val

I'm curious about Japanese support which I think goes beyond locale. Japanese often uses 24 hour times like 18:00 vs 6:00pm and while I see you can specify valid times in that format I didn't see how to get it to display 18:00 instead of 6:00pm. In the forms on this page https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input/time https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/in... When I typed 20:00 it assumed that first 2 meant 2am and then jumped to the minutes section as soon as I typed 2. Note: My system settings are set to use 24 hour time. Worse, Japanese times are often in terms of the night before. So for example if you look at movie times a movie playing at 1:00am Saturday morning is listed as 25:00 Friday night. I wonder if input type=time is probably going to cause more trouble than it's worth

nonsince 9y ago
One problem with internationalisation attempts is that most of the committees that have control over these things are from the Americas or Europe and so speak a Romance language natively and almost certainly speak English well (if not natively). There is nowhere near enough input from languages and cultures that might not fit European norms. There's a great article about a similar problem in Unicode: https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/i-can-text-you-a-pile-of-poo-but-i-cant-write-my-name https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/i-can-text-you-a-pile-of...
- gh02t 9y ago
  In this particular case though, 24 hour time is common in Europe and even in the US it's somewhat common (I use it). I curious how they could have overlooked it (partially).
- Majestic121 9y ago
  24h clock is very common in France, and other European countries as well
  - jszymborski 9y ago
    French Canada as well, and probably other members of the francophonie.
kawsper 9y ago
I am from Denmark, so I am mostly used to dealing with 24 hour clocks, I know it is simple for others but AM/PM gets me so confused, we do not use the 25:00 format as you. Now I live in the UK, and I still have to convert my friends to be using 24 hour clocks, maybe it will help if I start showing up at their houses at 05:00 instead of 17:00 :D
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BrandoElFollito 9y ago
TV hours work the same in France, except that a movie playing at 01:00 on Saturday will be listed on Friday, at 01:00. In other words, the first item listed on a given day is at, say, 9:00 that day despite the fact that other things were played earlier. The TV day then ends at, say, 6:00 the day after. I am not sure of the hours because I haven't actively watched TV for years but it was certainly the case when I was a kid in the 80's where TV was not 24/24 but ended sometime in the night. It was then natural for the next day to start at 9 or whatever was the earliest broadcast.

nonsince 9y ago

One problem with internationalisation attempts is that most of the committees that have control over these things are from the Americas or Europe and so speak a Romance language natively and almost certainly speak English well (if not natively). There is nowhere near enough input from languages and cultures that might not fit European norms. There's a great article about a similar problem in Unicode: https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/i-can-text-you-a-pile-of-poo-but-i-cant-write-my-name https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/i-can-text-you-a-pile-of...

gh02t 9y ago
In this particular case though, 24 hour time is common in Europe and even in the US it's somewhat common (I use it). I curious how they could have overlooked it (partially).
Majestic121 9y ago
24h clock is very common in France, and other European countries as well
- jszymborski 9y ago
  French Canada as well, and probably other members of the francophonie.

kawsper 9y ago

I am from Denmark, so I am mostly used to dealing with 24 hour clocks, I know it is simple for others but AM/PM gets me so confused, we do not use the 25:00 format as you. Now I live in the UK, and I still have to convert my friends to be using 24 hour clocks, maybe it will help if I start showing up at their houses at 05:00 instead of 17:00 :D

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BrandoElFollito 9y ago

TV hours work the same in France, except that a movie playing at 01:00 on Saturday will be listed on Friday, at 01:00. In other words, the first item listed on a given day is at, say, 9:00 that day despite the fact that other things were played earlier. The TV day then ends at, say, 6:00 the day after. I am not sure of the hours because I haven't actively watched TV for years but it was certainly the case when I was a kid in the 80's where TV was not 24/24 but ended sometime in the night. It was then natural for the next day to start at 9 or whatever was the earliest broadcast.