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Didn't Google stop scanning Gmail for ads targeting? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology

Didn't Google stop scanning Gmail for ads targeting? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html

nevir 9y ago
They still scan email for product features. Travel receipts for things like "my flights" & Google Now, etc
rurban 9y ago
More importantly they give any government agency free access without any warrant to fulltext search any customer. US law interpretation of IMAP. Only with a POP3 service you are safe.
- skybrian 9y ago
  "Without any warrant": what do you mean?
  - linkregister 9y ago
    Under the Stored Communications Act, law enforcement may get emails or other information under third party control with only a subpoena. Retrieving email via the POP3 protocol typically deletes the email upon retrieval, making it impossible for the third party to comply with requests for already-retrieved emails.
    - bhandziuk 9y ago
      >POP3 protocol typically deletes the email upon retrieval What POP3 client are you using that does this? I've not seen it before. It gets marked as read but that's it.
      - linkregister 9y ago
        Geez, Eudora? Outlook Express maybe? I haven’t used POP3 in a decade. It used to delete from the server after downloading locally. This was when most email mailboxes had a capacity of 10MB.
        bhandziuk 9y ago
        I'm writing something that uses POP3 right now and thankfully it doesn't delete anything. I'd have to do things a lot differently if that were the case
    - xfer 9y ago
      So you think google storage systems work like your normal filesystem?
      - linkregister 9y ago
        You don’t think that files can be deleted from a Google file system? Does gmail even store email like that, in flat files?
        xfer 9y ago
        They can be but not instantaneously, because of multiple replicated copies in a distributed environment.
- datguacdoh 9y ago
  Source?
  - gr3yh47 9y ago
    all of the news about how the 3-letter agencies operate from the last decade
paxy 9y ago
Only for business users (i.e. custom Google Apps domains)

Didn't Google stop scanning Gmail for ads targeting? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html

nevir 9y ago

They still scan email for product features. Travel receipts for things like "my flights" & Google Now, etc

rurban 9y ago

More importantly they give any government agency free access without any warrant to fulltext search any customer. US law interpretation of IMAP. Only with a POP3 service you are safe.

skybrian 9y ago
"Without any warrant": what do you mean?
- linkregister 9y ago
  Under the Stored Communications Act, law enforcement may get emails or other information under third party control with only a subpoena. Retrieving email via the POP3 protocol typically deletes the email upon retrieval, making it impossible for the third party to comply with requests for already-retrieved emails.
  - bhandziuk 9y ago
    >POP3 protocol typically deletes the email upon retrieval What POP3 client are you using that does this? I've not seen it before. It gets marked as read but that's it.
    - linkregister 9y ago
      Geez, Eudora? Outlook Express maybe? I haven’t used POP3 in a decade. It used to delete from the server after downloading locally. This was when most email mailboxes had a capacity of 10MB.
      - bhandziuk 9y ago
        I'm writing something that uses POP3 right now and thankfully it doesn't delete anything. I'd have to do things a lot differently if that were the case
  - xfer 9y ago
    So you think google storage systems work like your normal filesystem?
    - linkregister 9y ago
      You don’t think that files can be deleted from a Google file system? Does gmail even store email like that, in flat files?
      - xfer 9y ago
        They can be but not instantaneously, because of multiple replicated copies in a distributed environment.
datguacdoh 9y ago
Source?
- gr3yh47 9y ago
  all of the news about how the 3-letter agencies operate from the last decade

paxy 9y ago

Only for business users (i.e. custom Google Apps domains)