> At least in Australia, the "recycling industry" is owned by the "packaging industry". Maybe name them? > manufacturing industry has in fact worked out how t

> At least in Australia, the "recycling industry" is owned by the "packaging industry". Maybe name them? > manufacturing industry has in fact worked out how to "own" the environmental movement by pushing "recycling" as the "balance" to the spewing forth of garbage from the packaging industry Maybe this is just to save costs? This can't be presented as a fact unless there is hard proof. > Seems to me that world MUST eventually move to a solution which is a set of standardized containers for all products, which are durable, washable, have a refund value attached, and may have paper corporate brand stuck on them after being washed This is just throwing out a solution. How heavier a standard package would be? What about special cases like materials which are shock sensitive, leaky, smelly, corrosive, ... How costly would be washing them? > They're all filling every nook and cranny of this earth with garbage. There must be some data about how are we filling the earth with garbage. Is recycling really useless to combat this?