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"Know when to quit and when not to quit" is better advice then just "don't quit". However, I think this article is aimed at the situation where you know you sh

"Know when to quit and when not to quit" is better advice then just "don't quit". However, I think this article is aimed at the situation where you know you shouldn't quit, but you do because it's hard. For example, regular exercise. Something that has worked for me is committing myself to a short amount time doing the thing I don't want to do. I'll tell myself "after 5 minutes, if I still don't want to do this then I'll stop". Nearly always once I start washing the dishes or start a run, I'm happy to finish.

Retra 9y ago
That kind of stuff doesn't work for me; I can't "outsmart" myself by trying to take ad-hoc self-delivered advice. If I said something like that to myself, my brain would respond "nice try, I'm not that gullible. If quitting after five minutes were a reasonable outcome, then never starting is a reasonable outcome. Why don't I just wait until later?" If I know it's a trick enough to try it, then I know it's a trick enough to see through it.
- pegasus 9y ago
  Doesn't have to be a trick though. As long as some measurable dent in the pile of work is made, that's infinitely more than none at all, right? One way to make this real is for the first few times, to commit to definitely stop after the short interval decided for. So work out for those five minutes and then stop even when feeling like going longer. This way there's no trick involved. It's about removing the pressure to accomplish a significant dent and allow yourself to feel some satisfaction still, as long as there is a positive contribution. Small steps and all that...
- loco5niner 9y ago
  > I can't "outsmart" myself This isn't "outsmarting" yourself, its simply getting past the hardest part. It's difficult to "get off the couch" if I think I'm committing myself to running 10 miles. But I can easily get off the couch to run for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes, I can quit, or keep going. Sometimes I quit, sometimes I keep going.
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Zelphyr 9y ago
Apparently, the Navy SEAL's have a similar philosophy during BUD/S, and particularly during Hell Week where they go five days of gruelling physical challenges with a total of about 3-4 hours sleep.
- PrgsvThgt 9y ago
  This article seems to reference a personality trait that seems to be lacking in modern society: grit. Just my person opinion. Heck, I've lacked grit, in some situations. For a good (motivational) read about the definition of grit, who's got it, and why it matters, I recommend Angela Duckworth [link]http://angeladuckworth.com/ http://angeladuckworth.com/
  - s73ver_ 9y ago
    I don't think it's a lack of grit. I think a lot of it is a lack of motivation, or a lack of explanation of why they should continue.
- kamaal 9y ago
  >>Navy SEAL's have a similar philosophy during BUD/S, and particularly during Hell Week where they go five days of gruelling physical challenges with a total of about 3-4 hours sleep. The standard advice while doing anything that is that long and stressful, is to try and not quit the next 5 minutes at one time. But even in the case of Hell week, the worst part is the first 2.5 days. If you can make it till there, you finish the week. The instructors also don't push you to the point of the falling to total exhaustion, they know, if they have seen you hold on for half the time, you will get the remaining done easily.

Retra 9y ago

That kind of stuff doesn't work for me; I can't "outsmart" myself by trying to take ad-hoc self-delivered advice. If I said something like that to myself, my brain would respond "nice try, I'm not that gullible. If quitting after five minutes were a reasonable outcome, then never starting is a reasonable outcome. Why don't I just wait until later?" If I know it's a trick enough to try it, then I know it's a trick enough to see through it.

pegasus 9y ago
Doesn't have to be a trick though. As long as some measurable dent in the pile of work is made, that's infinitely more than none at all, right? One way to make this real is for the first few times, to commit to definitely stop after the short interval decided for. So work out for those five minutes and then stop even when feeling like going longer. This way there's no trick involved. It's about removing the pressure to accomplish a significant dent and allow yourself to feel some satisfaction still, as long as there is a positive contribution. Small steps and all that...
loco5niner 9y ago
> I can't "outsmart" myself This isn't "outsmarting" yourself, its simply getting past the hardest part. It's difficult to "get off the couch" if I think I'm committing myself to running 10 miles. But I can easily get off the couch to run for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes, I can quit, or keep going. Sometimes I quit, sometimes I keep going.
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Zelphyr 9y ago

Apparently, the Navy SEAL's have a similar philosophy during BUD/S, and particularly during Hell Week where they go five days of gruelling physical challenges with a total of about 3-4 hours sleep.

PrgsvThgt 9y ago
This article seems to reference a personality trait that seems to be lacking in modern society: grit. Just my person opinion. Heck, I've lacked grit, in some situations. For a good (motivational) read about the definition of grit, who's got it, and why it matters, I recommend Angela Duckworth [link]http://angeladuckworth.com/ http://angeladuckworth.com/
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  I don't think it's a lack of grit. I think a lot of it is a lack of motivation, or a lack of explanation of why they should continue.
kamaal 9y ago
>>Navy SEAL's have a similar philosophy during BUD/S, and particularly during Hell Week where they go five days of gruelling physical challenges with a total of about 3-4 hours sleep. The standard advice while doing anything that is that long and stressful, is to try and not quit the next 5 minutes at one time. But even in the case of Hell week, the worst part is the first 2.5 days. If you can make it till there, you finish the week. The instructors also don't push you to the point of the falling to total exhaustion, they know, if they have seen you hold on for half the time, you will get the remaining done easily.