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This is know scientifically for ~10 years now (in a sense that there are some studies, and the biochemistry of mechanisms is know, but the statistical power of

by nnq 9y ago

This is know scientifically for ~10 years now (in a sense that there are some studies, and the biochemistry of mechanisms is know, but the statistical power of the studies might be low... can''t remember, left the biomedical field years ago), and anecdotally since like for ever (google "making fois gras"). Also, for cats and dogs, other sugar (xylitol if I member well) can destroy their livers pretty fast. Fortunately, we come from sugar-happy monkeys (that used to eat lots of rottenfruit), so we can safely enjoy our booze in moderation :) And for extra self-destructive power, mix fructose and fats: your liver will be too overloaded processing the fructose (that btw, also gets transformed to extra fat and collesterol if its other metabolizing pathways get saturated) to be able to handle the fats correctly, so "bad collesterol" will accumulate in you blood, and then clog your arteries (yeah, it needs some extra help from inflamation). But, oh, wait, there's a name for that: donuts! ...or virtually every other fatty sweet stuff. Oh, and for extra-extra-damage the fats should be fried (for reason I don't have time to detail). And there's a name for that too: KFC + dessert! Now go enjoy your deserts! Or the fois gras you had before it ;) EDIT+: video explaining some (older) science behind it, form UCTV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

misja111 9y ago
Plus, when you eat sugar your body produces insulin, which instructs your body to stop burning fat and store it straight into your fat cells.
- s4vi0r 9y ago
  That's not true at all... What would possibly make you think that?
  - alex_hitchins 9y ago
    I can't point to anything specific, however I was under this impression from listening to a few Keto diet enthusiasts.
  - nnq 9y ago
    First search shows: http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/pancreas/insulin_phys.html http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/panc... > Insulin promotes synthesis of fatty acids in the liver > Insulin inhibits breakdown of fat in adipose tissue ...but don't take that to mean "insulin is what gets you fat". It does not... or not as in it being a bad thing. It's more like "insulin just tells your body to process away that damn extra sugar"... and your body does whatever it can with it, like converting it into stored fat. It would be much worse if it didn't! You'd have diabetes then, and that sugar standing unprocessed in you blood would do tons of damage to your body! Making you a bit fatter is kind of the best thing your body can do with the extra sugar that got dumped into your blood...
KozmoNau7 9y ago
Dr. Lustig's argumentation is questionable at best. http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-ab... https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/is-sugar-really-toxic-sifting-through-the-evidence/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/is-sugar-rea... Eat less sugar? Sure! But don't do it because of Dr. Lustig's exaggerations and paranoia. Do it because sugar is calorie-heavy with no real benefit.
- birksherty 9y ago
  "because sugar is calorie-heavy". That's it? What about all the studies that shows high consumption of sugar leads to diabetes, heart disease, mental health etc.? Who knows what is true any more? May be big sugar companies are fighting back using fake studies and blogs to lessen the blame like they did with fat before. Edit: I forgot to mention 2 real examples: 1. My father is not fat. We don't eat any junk foods, everything is cooked at home. He goes to office by cycle, it's long commute. But eats too much sweets and sugar, kind of addicted. He got diabetes, glucose reading 290 without food. 2. I started eating lots of sweets/sugar after I stayed at my parent's home for four months. When I sleep on my stomach, I started to feel my heart beat. It was not like this before. It was a bit scary. Then I read all those articles about sugar, and I figured that might be the reason. I stopped eating sugar completely. I no longer feel heart beat while sleeping on stomach. My heart beat per minute came down from 67 to 61. I only stopped sugar, everything else was constant. Okay, these are only 2 cases, it proves nothing. I know. But, I don't care what anyone says about sugar now. I know what I experienced and I believe on that.
  - alex_hitchins 9y ago
    Just because your fathers main meals are home cooked doesn't necessarily mean they are healthy.
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    And what about the studies that attribute those same maladies to fat, excessive protein intake from red meat, aluminum and countless other factors? I know people who are fit and well within normal weight, blood pressure, cholesterol and everything else, eat a very healthy diet and they still got diabetes. One of them lives almost exclusively on home-grown and home-cooked meals (they run a small farm), he's very into working out and is one of the most fit people I know. Yet he has type-2 diabetes. You're absolutely right that we should all eat less sugar, but there's no great mystery to it.
sgroppino 9y ago
Donuts and KFC are terrible. You should stick to Ben & Jerry's.

by nnq 9y ago

misja111 9y ago

Plus, when you eat sugar your body produces insulin, which instructs your body to stop burning fat and store it straight into your fat cells.

s4vi0r 9y ago
That's not true at all... What would possibly make you think that?
- alex_hitchins 9y ago
  I can't point to anything specific, however I was under this impression from listening to a few Keto diet enthusiasts.
- nnq 9y ago
  First search shows: http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/pancreas/insulin_phys.html http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/panc... > Insulin promotes synthesis of fatty acids in the liver > Insulin inhibits breakdown of fat in adipose tissue ...but don't take that to mean "insulin is what gets you fat". It does not... or not as in it being a bad thing. It's more like "insulin just tells your body to process away that damn extra sugar"... and your body does whatever it can with it, like converting it into stored fat. It would be much worse if it didn't! You'd have diabetes then, and that sugar standing unprocessed in you blood would do tons of damage to your body! Making you a bit fatter is kind of the best thing your body can do with the extra sugar that got dumped into your blood...

KozmoNau7 9y ago

Dr. Lustig's argumentation is questionable at best. http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-ab... https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/is-sugar-really-toxic-sifting-through-the-evidence/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/is-sugar-rea... Eat less sugar? Sure! But don't do it because of Dr. Lustig's exaggerations and paranoia. Do it because sugar is calorie-heavy with no real benefit.

birksherty 9y ago
"because sugar is calorie-heavy". That's it? What about all the studies that shows high consumption of sugar leads to diabetes, heart disease, mental health etc.? Who knows what is true any more? May be big sugar companies are fighting back using fake studies and blogs to lessen the blame like they did with fat before. Edit: I forgot to mention 2 real examples: 1. My father is not fat. We don't eat any junk foods, everything is cooked at home. He goes to office by cycle, it's long commute. But eats too much sweets and sugar, kind of addicted. He got diabetes, glucose reading 290 without food. 2. I started eating lots of sweets/sugar after I stayed at my parent's home for four months. When I sleep on my stomach, I started to feel my heart beat. It was not like this before. It was a bit scary. Then I read all those articles about sugar, and I figured that might be the reason. I stopped eating sugar completely. I no longer feel heart beat while sleeping on stomach. My heart beat per minute came down from 67 to 61. I only stopped sugar, everything else was constant. Okay, these are only 2 cases, it proves nothing. I know. But, I don't care what anyone says about sugar now. I know what I experienced and I believe on that.
- alex_hitchins 9y ago
  Just because your fathers main meals are home cooked doesn't necessarily mean they are healthy.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  And what about the studies that attribute those same maladies to fat, excessive protein intake from red meat, aluminum and countless other factors? I know people who are fit and well within normal weight, blood pressure, cholesterol and everything else, eat a very healthy diet and they still got diabetes. One of them lives almost exclusively on home-grown and home-cooked meals (they run a small farm), he's very into working out and is one of the most fit people I know. Yet he has type-2 diabetes. You're absolutely right that we should all eat less sugar, but there's no great mystery to it.

sgroppino 9y ago

Donuts and KFC are terrible. You should stick to Ben & Jerry's.