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High fructose corn syrup is made by processing regular corn syrup (mostly glucose) with enzymes to convert some of the glucose to fructose, making it sweeter. C

by mrob 9y ago

High fructose corn syrup is made by processing regular corn syrup (mostly glucose) with enzymes to convert some of the glucose to fructose, making it sweeter. Corn is not naturally high in fructose.

canttestthis 9y ago
Is there a term for scientific claims made in this way? I saw something similar on reddit the other day where a commenter was trying to prove that a certain chemical was not harmful. It went something like "The reason we think this chemical is harmful is because of this study from the 60s which was done in 17 countries. But one country was excluded from the study because of inconclusive results. Which one? The US! The country that we care the most about, and there weren't solid results here!"
- NTripleOne 9y ago
  I don't know if it has a term of not, but it sounds like the pretty fuckin' opposite of science to me - adjusting the results to fit your wanted view instead of adjusting your view to fit the results.
  - zero_iq 9y ago
    Cherry-picking / confirmation bias.
- pas 9y ago
  It's basically a narrative, "an explanation", not science. In particular this is an easy to vary explanation. (Just cherry pick other data to fit your narrative.) https://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_a_new_way_to_explain_explanation/transcript?language=en https://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_a_new_way_to_explain... Science is looking at a problem. Stating it. Analysing it. (Setting up hypotheses, gathering data, coming up with clever ways to test those hypotheses, desigining experiments, conducting them, evaluating their results, and then iterating on this. While being vigilant at every step. Trying to falsify every step. If you can't falsify it, great, you have a useful model.)
turk184 9y ago
Okay, but what I don't see is a real campaign against food producers padding out their products with crap! It's everywhere--not just corn syrup, although that's a huge one, but every place food can be padded out with what amounts to sawdust, they're doing it! Not a peep about it in the media. Also, if everyone is so worried about the environment, how about some pushback against the ever-diminishing package sizes of literally everything? Landfills must be teeming with plastic and cardboard boxes because people aren't eating less now that inflation is being "hidden" by the 7.8 ounce pound! It's disgusting and nobody in times past would have been this gullible or put up with it! People used to run goons who put their finger on the scale right out of town.

by mrob 9y ago

High fructose corn syrup is made by processing regular corn syrup (mostly glucose) with enzymes to convert some of the glucose to fructose, making it sweeter. Corn is not naturally high in fructose.

canttestthis 9y ago

Is there a term for scientific claims made in this way? I saw something similar on reddit the other day where a commenter was trying to prove that a certain chemical was not harmful. It went something like "The reason we think this chemical is harmful is because of this study from the 60s which was done in 17 countries. But one country was excluded from the study because of inconclusive results. Which one? The US! The country that we care the most about, and there weren't solid results here!"

NTripleOne 9y ago
I don't know if it has a term of not, but it sounds like the pretty fuckin' opposite of science to me - adjusting the results to fit your wanted view instead of adjusting your view to fit the results.
- zero_iq 9y ago
  Cherry-picking / confirmation bias.
pas 9y ago
It's basically a narrative, "an explanation", not science. In particular this is an easy to vary explanation. (Just cherry pick other data to fit your narrative.) https://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_a_new_way_to_explain_explanation/transcript?language=en https://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_a_new_way_to_explain... Science is looking at a problem. Stating it. Analysing it. (Setting up hypotheses, gathering data, coming up with clever ways to test those hypotheses, desigining experiments, conducting them, evaluating their results, and then iterating on this. While being vigilant at every step. Trying to falsify every step. If you can't falsify it, great, you have a useful model.)

turk184 9y ago

Okay, but what I don't see is a real campaign against food producers padding out their products with crap! It's everywhere--not just corn syrup, although that's a huge one, but every place food can be padded out with what amounts to sawdust, they're doing it! Not a peep about it in the media. Also, if everyone is so worried about the environment, how about some pushback against the ever-diminishing package sizes of literally everything? Landfills must be teeming with plastic and cardboard boxes because people aren't eating less now that inflation is being "hidden" by the 7.8 ounce pound! It's disgusting and nobody in times past would have been this gullible or put up with it! People used to run goons who put their finger on the scale right out of town.