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Nobody would mine bitcoin in the browser in their right mind, it's a waste of resources. You would choose one of the coins made specifically for CPU/GPU mining

Nobody would mine bitcoin in the browser in their right mind, it's a waste of resources. You would choose one of the coins made specifically for CPU/GPU mining only, no ASICs.

steeleduncan 9y ago
Mining doesn't have to be a cost efficient use of cpu cycles for the person browsing for this to catch on, it just needs to be a more cost efficient use of bandwidth and server power for the entity serving the ads. Bitcoins are the consistently valuable and liquid coin, therefore it can make sense to serve bitcoin mining js.
- mitchty 9y ago
  If this ever catches on, i have even more reason to disable all javascript while browsing on my laptop and on battery. As it is javascript is the number one reason for shit battery life, I don't want to make that even worse than the days of flash which its rapidly already become today.
  - wmurmann 9y ago
    Better off just closing your laptop then, as most sites rely heavily on JavaScript.
    - mitchty 9y ago
      Really? My choice for the "modern" web is: no battery life or no web? Faustian bargains like that aren't a great definition of progress.
  - gruez 9y ago
    until you hit SPA sites that need javascript to work.
    - mitchty 9y ago
      That would be avoidable until I'm back on power. Fundamentally the issue here is energy consumption while on battery. Without a way to say: a site can use N% of battery and then hard cap the usage down to a trickle and alerting the site that the user has limited energy resources available, I think this is a non starter. Similar to when you are on LTE you don't want to use up limited bandwidth for say 4k video and want to say: you know what, I'll deal with this later and not go over my monthly allocation, the same applies here. Is that view that unreasonable?
- Laforet 9y ago
  It will never be, and indeed nobody has bothered to make a bitcoin minibg js. Why? Because each desktop CPU would only yield 20-30 megahashes per second, less if you don't want to slow the user's computer to a crawl. A server would need to manage millions of clients just to match a single ASIC miner which has efficiency rated in terahashes. And that amount of hash power would only return about 30 dollars in bitcoin on a good day. This is why all javascript miners target Monero and the latter was often criticised for having a CPU-friendly PoW because this is just asking for botnets to form.
  - just_one_time_ 9y ago
    I guess you dont know about Monero then?
3pt14159 9y ago
Of course not, but they can mine other coins that are more asic resistant.

Nobody would mine bitcoin in the browser in their right mind, it's a waste of resources. You would choose one of the coins made specifically for CPU/GPU mining only, no ASICs.

steeleduncan 9y ago

Mining doesn't have to be a cost efficient use of cpu cycles for the person browsing for this to catch on, it just needs to be a more cost efficient use of bandwidth and server power for the entity serving the ads. Bitcoins are the consistently valuable and liquid coin, therefore it can make sense to serve bitcoin mining js.

mitchty 9y ago
If this ever catches on, i have even more reason to disable all javascript while browsing on my laptop and on battery. As it is javascript is the number one reason for shit battery life, I don't want to make that even worse than the days of flash which its rapidly already become today.
- wmurmann 9y ago
  Better off just closing your laptop then, as most sites rely heavily on JavaScript.
  - mitchty 9y ago
    Really? My choice for the "modern" web is: no battery life or no web? Faustian bargains like that aren't a great definition of progress.
- gruez 9y ago
  until you hit SPA sites that need javascript to work.
  - mitchty 9y ago
    That would be avoidable until I'm back on power. Fundamentally the issue here is energy consumption while on battery. Without a way to say: a site can use N% of battery and then hard cap the usage down to a trickle and alerting the site that the user has limited energy resources available, I think this is a non starter. Similar to when you are on LTE you don't want to use up limited bandwidth for say 4k video and want to say: you know what, I'll deal with this later and not go over my monthly allocation, the same applies here. Is that view that unreasonable?
Laforet 9y ago
It will never be, and indeed nobody has bothered to make a bitcoin minibg js. Why? Because each desktop CPU would only yield 20-30 megahashes per second, less if you don't want to slow the user's computer to a crawl. A server would need to manage millions of clients just to match a single ASIC miner which has efficiency rated in terahashes. And that amount of hash power would only return about 30 dollars in bitcoin on a good day. This is why all javascript miners target Monero and the latter was often criticised for having a CPU-friendly PoW because this is just asking for botnets to form.
- just_one_time_ 9y ago
  I guess you dont know about Monero then?

3pt14159 9y ago

Of course not, but they can mine other coins that are more asic resistant.