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You miss the point of owning a car: it's space that's yours. You only use your bed 1/3 of the time, and your toilet for less than 5%. Why not hot-sheet it and

You miss the point of owning a car: it's space that's yours. You only use your bed 1/3 of the time, and your toilet for less than 5%. Why not hot-sheet it and use a shared toilet down the street? Because you're willing to pay more for personal space, where you can leave your stuff and maintain your preferred level of hygiene.

icebraining 9y ago
I actually recently stayed at a studio in Paris in which the toilet was shared between all the studios on the floor :)
gumby 9y ago
I agree that certain cases will remain, such as for, say, a plumber, though in theory the ubiquity of autonomous vehicles means that a plumbing supply company could provide JIT service. But although I don't blindly believe in homo economicus, I wasn't kidding when I said that the car is an (or for many the most) enormous expense for most people, and the size of that expense will aggressively drive the adoption rate. The ability to have a box of Kleenex or your gym bag will become a nice to have when the price of that convenience doubles or triples your transportation costs. The difference in price might allow you to afford gym membership in the first place. It's also a generational thing. My 19 yo kid and his friends are pretty uninterested in cars. A bunch of them don't even have licenses (which is common in some big cities like NYC but uncommon out here in the sub urbs). They care about phones though. In the case of the toilet and bed, those are typically bundled, but even then some people do make the economic choice to have only a shower rather than a bathtub just like they make such a choice for a normal car vs paying extra for automatic transmission. (there are also transitional and special cases; it's hard to hail a car where there is no phone service!)
def_true_false 9y ago
Sharing of bathrooms, washing machines, etc is actually quite common among people who want to live in the city centres (expensive) while having low income - e.g. students. Reusing the space used for sleeping is much less common, and comes with more trade-offs, but it's not unheard of either (high beds and similar come to mind [1] [2]). Not sure if this is different in the US... [1] - https://i.imgur.com/IH21TYj.png https://i.imgur.com/IH21TYj.png [2] - https://i.imgur.com/h0hrXqx.png https://i.imgur.com/h0hrXqx.png

icebraining 9y ago

I actually recently stayed at a studio in Paris in which the toilet was shared between all the studios on the floor :)

gumby 9y ago

I agree that certain cases will remain, such as for, say, a plumber, though in theory the ubiquity of autonomous vehicles means that a plumbing supply company could provide JIT service. But although I don't blindly believe in homo economicus, I wasn't kidding when I said that the car is an (or for many the most) enormous expense for most people, and the size of that expense will aggressively drive the adoption rate. The ability to have a box of Kleenex or your gym bag will become a nice to have when the price of that convenience doubles or triples your transportation costs. The difference in price might allow you to afford gym membership in the first place. It's also a generational thing. My 19 yo kid and his friends are pretty uninterested in cars. A bunch of them don't even have licenses (which is common in some big cities like NYC but uncommon out here in the sub urbs). They care about phones though. In the case of the toilet and bed, those are typically bundled, but even then some people do make the economic choice to have only a shower rather than a bathtub just like they make such a choice for a normal car vs paying extra for automatic transmission. (there are also transitional and special cases; it's hard to hail a car where there is no phone service!)

def_true_false 9y ago

Sharing of bathrooms, washing machines, etc is actually quite common among people who want to live in the city centres (expensive) while having low income - e.g. students. Reusing the space used for sleeping is much less common, and comes with more trade-offs, but it's not unheard of either (high beds and similar come to mind [1] [2]). Not sure if this is different in the US... [1] - https://i.imgur.com/IH21TYj.png https://i.imgur.com/IH21TYj.png [2] - https://i.imgur.com/h0hrXqx.png https://i.imgur.com/h0hrXqx.png