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Agreed. There’s an article of a remote hijack of I think it was a Jeep using Ulink or whatever it’s remote interface was. Scarey with its limited capabilities.

Agreed. There’s an article of a remote hijack of I think it was a Jeep using Ulink or whatever it’s remote interface was. Scarey with its limited capabilities. To be fair, I won’t even blame the auto industry for having vulnerabilities in their software. At this point I’ve come to accept that any bit of technology has flaws and can be exploited. No matter how great their dev team is. Comical as it was and unrealistic for the time period, the latest fast and furious movie showed a potential scenario of a fully autonomous traffic. It’s going to be the same reason there’s no flying cars. The tech has been around for easily 20 years. But if you watch enough Air Disasters, autopilot and other computer controlled airplane functions still fail catastrophically. To this day. The average person is not capable of flying an airplane. Shit, the average person still isn’t great at driving a car. Sure that brings to argument that then all cars should be self driving. But the added risks, I don’t think so. The current sample data of self driving cars is still small and there aren’t active hackers looking to truly exploit yet. It’s like when people said that Macs were immune from viruses back in the day. No, people made viruses for windows because they can cause more wide spread damage since they were more widespread. Few had macs thus, why bother? But it doesn’t matter. Self driving cars will happen and something bad will happen in that time. There’s too much money to be made. This isn’t being done to save the world. It’s a control scheme as you pointed out. It’s funny how the older you get the more you realize that when someone starts to spout they’re trying to saving the world, they’re covering up some type of scheme to make money and make the world a shittier place.

Shaanie 9y ago
I think the most interesting part is how we humans reason when it comes to risk. A hacker causing accidents is so scary that autonomous cars sound like a bad idea, yet the risk of dying to a hacker while in an autonomous car would almost certainly be lower than dying to a drunk or distracted driver right now. 37 000 people in the US died in vehicle accidents last year and around 2 million were injured. Obviously not all accidents would be preventable by autonomous cars, but I wonder how many of those people would be alive or uninjured if the cars could have been autonomous.
- corodra 9y ago
  Yea, suicide rates are just as bad too. Same with medical malpractice and just getting an antibiotic resistant infection. Bad things will always happen. An issue here is control. I have an amount of control on the road as an active driver. Truly once self driving cars become a thing, no one will be a passive driver realistically. Everyone will have their nose in their phone. I grew up in Florida and learned to drive in Florida. The rest of the USA has rookie numbers when it comes to deaths on the road. Defensive driving is why I’ve dodged 2 drunk drivers. I won’t give up control of a vehicle to a computer. The reason why flying commercial flights is scary, lack of control even though it’s statistically safer. But it’s also statistically a complete shit storm when something does go wrong. Engine failure in a car and a plane have different stats on result for a reason. Point being, I doubt annual deaths on the road will differ all that much. We will all die in new ways because of self driving cars. That and folks who drive drunk are actively not making a smart decision already. “I don’t need the car to drive me home. I’m fine” that’ll be the new last words. Anyone who goes they’re too drunk to drive, don’t already, without having a self driving car.
chiefofgxbxl 9y ago
> It’s funny how the older you get the more you realize that when someone starts to spout they’re trying to saving the world, they’re covering up some type of scheme to make money and make the world a shittier place. I agree with all the points the OP made for self-driving car downfalls, but I still think that the people working on the tech have the best intentions. It's just that we as humans do a bad job of having foresight and the critical analysis skills necessary to truly assess the whole of a technology, and not just the good parts. Maybe that reflects well on humans as it hints at an optimistic nature? I see the potential benefits of self-driving cars, but am worried that the medium-term to long-term negative points will outweigh the positive. There should really be a council of techies, representatives, legal experts, and most importantly average citizens that sit down and heavily critique this technology to address all the negative points before it becomes widespread.

Shaanie 9y ago

I think the most interesting part is how we humans reason when it comes to risk. A hacker causing accidents is so scary that autonomous cars sound like a bad idea, yet the risk of dying to a hacker while in an autonomous car would almost certainly be lower than dying to a drunk or distracted driver right now. 37 000 people in the US died in vehicle accidents last year and around 2 million were injured. Obviously not all accidents would be preventable by autonomous cars, but I wonder how many of those people would be alive or uninjured if the cars could have been autonomous.

corodra 9y ago
Yea, suicide rates are just as bad too. Same with medical malpractice and just getting an antibiotic resistant infection. Bad things will always happen. An issue here is control. I have an amount of control on the road as an active driver. Truly once self driving cars become a thing, no one will be a passive driver realistically. Everyone will have their nose in their phone. I grew up in Florida and learned to drive in Florida. The rest of the USA has rookie numbers when it comes to deaths on the road. Defensive driving is why I’ve dodged 2 drunk drivers. I won’t give up control of a vehicle to a computer. The reason why flying commercial flights is scary, lack of control even though it’s statistically safer. But it’s also statistically a complete shit storm when something does go wrong. Engine failure in a car and a plane have different stats on result for a reason. Point being, I doubt annual deaths on the road will differ all that much. We will all die in new ways because of self driving cars. That and folks who drive drunk are actively not making a smart decision already. “I don’t need the car to drive me home. I’m fine” that’ll be the new last words. Anyone who goes they’re too drunk to drive, don’t already, without having a self driving car.

chiefofgxbxl 9y ago

> It’s funny how the older you get the more you realize that when someone starts to spout they’re trying to saving the world, they’re covering up some type of scheme to make money and make the world a shittier place. I agree with all the points the OP made for self-driving car downfalls, but I still think that the people working on the tech have the best intentions. It's just that we as humans do a bad job of having foresight and the critical analysis skills necessary to truly assess the whole of a technology, and not just the good parts. Maybe that reflects well on humans as it hints at an optimistic nature? I see the potential benefits of self-driving cars, but am worried that the medium-term to long-term negative points will outweigh the positive. There should really be a council of techies, representatives, legal experts, and most importantly average citizens that sit down and heavily critique this technology to address all the negative points before it becomes widespread.