Java desktop applications tend to be slow and bloated. Java server applications tend to be pretty ok if well designed. For desktop applications you suffer some

Java desktop applications tend to be slow and bloated. Java server applications tend to be pretty ok if well designed. For desktop applications you suffer some more from innate disadvantages of JITs and the common graphics libs. People experience Java when using eclipse and minecraft and so perceive it as slow. When a java server provided data fast to a wevsite, people don't know that is java.