3 ms·

Is Mono not dying due to .NET core? It seems to be popping up in a few new places but I would have thought new projects would be avoiding it. The last thing I

Is Mono not dying due to .NET core? It seems to be popping up in a few new places but I would have thought new projects would be avoiding it. The last thing I want is any dependency on MS tooling as they've shown everything they release will include telemetry. I'm just getting started with game dev and I really like Godot, but if the future is going to require MS anything, I'm going to jump ship.

Rapzid 9y ago
I have bad news for you; Mono 5.0 launched with Roslyn which I believe is what brings C#7 support. Roslyn is of course a MS project. Ditto for MSBUILD.
- jasonkostempski 9y ago
  So will installing a version of Godot that supports C# get me something reporting back to MS out of the box?
kevingadd 9y ago
Mono is still supported. .NET core and Mono solve different problems - for example (this surprised me), unlike Mono and the windows .NET Framework, .NET core can't just run random .NET executables you download off the internet. You have to build a core-targeted project from source. Mono also handles cross-platform scenarios like mobile & mac frontend apps right now that .NET core won't be a good fit for in the near future.
- cptskippy 9y ago
  Mono, .NET Framework, .NET Core, Xamarin.<Platform>, etc are all just different implementations of .NET Standard. I believe .NET Framework is a superset of Core. They can all run code targeted at Standard but all have slightly different libraries on top of Standard. Mono was originally was intended to be a cross platform stand-in for .NET Framework which is why they can mostly run the same code. I believe Mono and Framework are slowly merging together.
  - AdeptusAquinas 9y ago
    I don't think this is true. Framework for example can only reference standard libraries as of 4.6.2. Up until dotnet core 2.0, core was very much an incompatibile subset of framework - even with 2.0 it would be better characterised as a cross platform rewrite of the net framework.
    - pjmlp 9y ago
      Actually .NET Standard 2.0 requires .NET 4.6.1. .NET 4.6.2 was only for .NET Standard 1.0, but they realised basing on 4.6.1 would be a more sensible decision and fixed it in version 2.0.

Rapzid 9y ago

I have bad news for you; Mono 5.0 launched with Roslyn which I believe is what brings C#7 support. Roslyn is of course a MS project. Ditto for MSBUILD.

jasonkostempski 9y ago
So will installing a version of Godot that supports C# get me something reporting back to MS out of the box?

kevingadd 9y ago

Mono is still supported. .NET core and Mono solve different problems - for example (this surprised me), unlike Mono and the windows .NET Framework, .NET core can't just run random .NET executables you download off the internet. You have to build a core-targeted project from source. Mono also handles cross-platform scenarios like mobile & mac frontend apps right now that .NET core won't be a good fit for in the near future.

cptskippy 9y ago
Mono, .NET Framework, .NET Core, Xamarin.<Platform>, etc are all just different implementations of .NET Standard. I believe .NET Framework is a superset of Core. They can all run code targeted at Standard but all have slightly different libraries on top of Standard. Mono was originally was intended to be a cross platform stand-in for .NET Framework which is why they can mostly run the same code. I believe Mono and Framework are slowly merging together.
- AdeptusAquinas 9y ago
  I don't think this is true. Framework for example can only reference standard libraries as of 4.6.2. Up until dotnet core 2.0, core was very much an incompatibile subset of framework - even with 2.0 it would be better characterised as a cross platform rewrite of the net framework.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Actually .NET Standard 2.0 requires .NET 4.6.1. .NET 4.6.2 was only for .NET Standard 1.0, but they realised basing on 4.6.1 would be a more sensible decision and fixed it in version 2.0.