Let's pick common ground. Define "Melbourne"? How far from the cbd before it's not Melbourne for you, because I know you can't be suggesting people in Frankston

Let's pick common ground. Define "Melbourne"? How far from the cbd before it's not Melbourne for you, because I know you can't be suggesting people in Frankston or pakenham don't need a car. And from personal experience I can tell you that any argument of not needing a car goes out the window as soon as someone has kids. Discussion over. Unless you're volunteering to cart around all the shit parents take with them?