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Given that "Catalunia leader" has dissolved the Parlament (Catalunia local congress) and declared independence(but saying that he suspended it), it is only logi

Given that "Catalunia leader" has dissolved the Parlament (Catalunia local congress) and declared independence(but saying that he suspended it), it is only logical what the Government has to do. The central Government is not escalating anything, on the contrary, it has been extremely weak. Imagine that some State in the US declares the president of the US has no decisions over his land, and that you follow your own local laws(made by you on the go) instead of the laws of your country. It will not take more than 5 minutes of that for the country to act. The Parlament local laws said that you need two thirds of the Parlament in order to do anything serious. Those guys wanted to declare independence with half the seats plus one. Those seats represent less people that those that were not independentists. In the case of Spain it has taken almost a month to do something, and most of the responsible people are out there free, earning a very good salary for trying to destroy the country. In China when revolution won everything that Chinese elite did was bad, even if they did some things well, like having hygienic manners. As a result, living in China today is extremely disgusting. In Spain the same happens with anything Franco dictatorship did. We always have to do the opposite of what Franco would have done. So because Franco was nationalist and brave(he risked his life over 200 hundred times in battle) politicians believe that democracy needs to be against the nation and weakness the rule. They do not consider that you could be a democracy and take your country seriously. So they made it legal for politicians that want to destroy the system be part of the System. They gave territories more autonomy, a local tv, local police, the education and health system. Local police now is acting like a private independentists police(like the SA and SS were private armies of Hitler against Germany army and police). Local TV and radio uses their airtime to put loop videos of Spanish police "brutality" (nothing compared against last Germany action in the G20 summit or Britain with Brexit protests), where the local police has not followed orders by central Government. The local health system(following also local orders) declared anyone having an anxiety crisis for watching local TV loops to be an officially "injured" by Spanish police. More than 200 "injured" by Spanish police had just watched TV.

syshum 9y ago
>>Imagine that some State in the US declares the president of the US has no decisions over his land, and that you follow your own local laws(made by you on the go) instead of the laws of your country. It will not take more than 5 minutes of that for the country to act. We have a strong Federalist Society and I think it would take much longer than 5 mins to act. While the US Federal Government has gain alot of power after the last 100 years it is still not the Top Dogs, Under the US Constitution the State governments can amend and/or abolish the Federal Government if they so choose. The US Constitution is entirely about limiting the power and scope of the US Federal Government, a fact that seems to be lost both in international understanding of the US, and sadly domestically as well since we have more and more people thinking the Constitution is about "Giving people rights" or outlining what an individual can do, instead of its original and true purpose of defining what the government is allowed to do Prime example of this is National Speed Limits, there is no way for the US Federal Government to demand a speed limit so when they wanted to establish said limit of 65, they had to do it by bribes and extortion they tied federal funding for roads to the passage of state laws establishing a 65 speed limit, states that did not pass such a law would lose billions in federal money So no I do not believe the reaction would be as you think it would be here in the States A more modern and pressing example is the ongoing conflict between several states and the US Federal Government over Marijuana where multiple states have now openly defied the federal laws on prohibition of this plant. And on Immigration where they openly resist and obstruct enforcement of Federal Immigration Law. No in the US the State government are regularly in opposition to the Federal Government
- foldr 9y ago
  Have you forgotten about the Civil War? It didn't go down super peacefully the last time a group of states tried to go it alone.
  - syshum 9y ago
    Have you forgotten about the American Revolutionary War... To answer your question no, I have not forgotten about the Civil War and to classify the Civil War as "states trying to go at it alone" is extremely ignorant of the political, economic, and other factors around the Civil War
    - foldr 9y ago
      I don't see how else you would describe the secession of the Southern States. It's basically Latin for "going it alone".
JaumeGreen 9y ago
Catalonia'president has not dissolved the parliament, neither has he disbanded it. There will be a parlamentari meeting next week to debate what to do with the application of the 155 and how to respond. Has just said so in a televised speech. Just with the inaccuracy you started marks all the rest you wrote as "things to doubt".

syshum 9y ago

>>Imagine that some State in the US declares the president of the US has no decisions over his land, and that you follow your own local laws(made by you on the go) instead of the laws of your country. It will not take more than 5 minutes of that for the country to act. We have a strong Federalist Society and I think it would take much longer than 5 mins to act. While the US Federal Government has gain alot of power after the last 100 years it is still not the Top Dogs, Under the US Constitution the State governments can amend and/or abolish the Federal Government if they so choose. The US Constitution is entirely about limiting the power and scope of the US Federal Government, a fact that seems to be lost both in international understanding of the US, and sadly domestically as well since we have more and more people thinking the Constitution is about "Giving people rights" or outlining what an individual can do, instead of its original and true purpose of defining what the government is allowed to do Prime example of this is National Speed Limits, there is no way for the US Federal Government to demand a speed limit so when they wanted to establish said limit of 65, they had to do it by bribes and extortion they tied federal funding for roads to the passage of state laws establishing a 65 speed limit, states that did not pass such a law would lose billions in federal money So no I do not believe the reaction would be as you think it would be here in the States A more modern and pressing example is the ongoing conflict between several states and the US Federal Government over Marijuana where multiple states have now openly defied the federal laws on prohibition of this plant. And on Immigration where they openly resist and obstruct enforcement of Federal Immigration Law. No in the US the State government are regularly in opposition to the Federal Government

foldr 9y ago
Have you forgotten about the Civil War? It didn't go down super peacefully the last time a group of states tried to go it alone.
- syshum 9y ago
  Have you forgotten about the American Revolutionary War... To answer your question no, I have not forgotten about the Civil War and to classify the Civil War as "states trying to go at it alone" is extremely ignorant of the political, economic, and other factors around the Civil War
  - foldr 9y ago
    I don't see how else you would describe the secession of the Southern States. It's basically Latin for "going it alone".

JaumeGreen 9y ago

Catalonia'president has not dissolved the parliament, neither has he disbanded it. There will be a parlamentari meeting next week to debate what to do with the application of the 155 and how to respond. Has just said so in a televised speech. Just with the inaccuracy you started marks all the rest you wrote as "things to doubt".