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Which restaurant? Did you raise a complain? Sorry but these stories ring untrue, given that Barcelona is both a huge touristic destination and most servers spe

Which restaurant? Did you raise a complain? Sorry but these stories ring untrue, given that Barcelona is both a huge touristic destination and most servers speaking Spanish as a rule.

notspanishflu 9y ago
Barcelona's local government has been pretty aggressive against tourism lately. Edit: Ok, is impossible to have a conversation when secessionists are downvoting every comment. Fine. I prefer to post arguments, and sources. http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2017/04/barcelona-mayor-city-losing-identity-170412082645192.html http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2017/04/ba... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11643802/Incoming-Barcelona-mayor-wants-to-introduce-tourist-cap.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11643... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/01/barcelona-anti-tourism-activists-vandalise-bikes-and-bus https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/01/barcelona-anti...
- JaumeGreen 9y ago
  You are partly right. Barcelona's major wants to make tourism more manageable because it is considered that too many tourists kill the spirit of the city, increase rent for the citizens too much and, depending on their upbringing, bring fights and low quality tourism to the city. There's also a civil movement against tourism, specially AirBnB, that has made some actions. But that movement is separate from the independence movement. There are people of all factions in that movement, and it's quite smaller than the independence one. The partly is that, at least on the other times this topic has come to hacker news, the brigading was from unionists.
icebraining 9y ago
I think the idea was that the server understood she was Spanish and therefore that he was hostile to her, not that he didn't speak Spanish.
- JaumeGreen 9y ago
  Most servers tend to speak Spanish, and quite a big percentage are from South America. Spanish (as main language) speaking people in Catalonia tend not to have a Catalan accent in their Spanish, most Catalan (as main language) speaking have said accent. So they went to a restaurant that had a server that not only was Catalan, but was an independentist, detected your friend by her accent, isolated her making she alone speak Catalan and the manager was OK with that? Sorry, does not compute.
ASalazarMX 9y ago
It rings as true to me. I've been to small towns in Catalonia, and while most people figures I'm Mexican and treat me as a tourist, a few locals would feign not understanding a word of Spanish and would only speak to you in Catalan, even if you're trying to buy something from them.

Which restaurant? Did you raise a complain? Sorry but these stories ring untrue, given that Barcelona is both a huge touristic destination and most servers speaking Spanish as a rule.

notspanishflu 9y ago

Barcelona's local government has been pretty aggressive against tourism lately. Edit: Ok, is impossible to have a conversation when secessionists are downvoting every comment. Fine. I prefer to post arguments, and sources. http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2017/04/barcelona-mayor-city-losing-identity-170412082645192.html http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2017/04/ba... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11643802/Incoming-Barcelona-mayor-wants-to-introduce-tourist-cap.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11643... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/01/barcelona-anti-tourism-activists-vandalise-bikes-and-bus https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/01/barcelona-anti...

JaumeGreen 9y ago
You are partly right. Barcelona's major wants to make tourism more manageable because it is considered that too many tourists kill the spirit of the city, increase rent for the citizens too much and, depending on their upbringing, bring fights and low quality tourism to the city. There's also a civil movement against tourism, specially AirBnB, that has made some actions. But that movement is separate from the independence movement. There are people of all factions in that movement, and it's quite smaller than the independence one. The partly is that, at least on the other times this topic has come to hacker news, the brigading was from unionists.

icebraining 9y ago

I think the idea was that the server understood she was Spanish and therefore that he was hostile to her, not that he didn't speak Spanish.

JaumeGreen 9y ago
Most servers tend to speak Spanish, and quite a big percentage are from South America. Spanish (as main language) speaking people in Catalonia tend not to have a Catalan accent in their Spanish, most Catalan (as main language) speaking have said accent. So they went to a restaurant that had a server that not only was Catalan, but was an independentist, detected your friend by her accent, isolated her making she alone speak Catalan and the manager was OK with that? Sorry, does not compute.

ASalazarMX 9y ago

It rings as true to me. I've been to small towns in Catalonia, and while most people figures I'm Mexican and treat me as a tourist, a few locals would feign not understanding a word of Spanish and would only speak to you in Catalan, even if you're trying to buy something from them.