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I believe that Trump lies in order to get the media to cover the topic he's talking about. He feeds them with some juicy factual error they can jump up and dow

I believe that Trump lies in order to get the media to cover the topic he's talking about. He feeds them with some juicy factual error they can jump up and down on, along with some controversial topic they'd rather not cover. It works to a certain degree. It also sometimes backfires, "Violence on many sides" about Charlottesville was his attempt to get them to talk about Antifa, IMO, but was spun as he was defending white supremacy. The problem is that it's become so cliche that he lies, it's worn out its usefulness. It worked in the election, but now everyone is annoyed, including his supporters. It's hard to align yourself with someone who is beaten up so badly every day, regardless if he's hurting his opponents or not.

sudhirj 9y ago
Why attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity?
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- _0ffh 9y ago
  Or maybe a combination of the two? I have met quite accomplished manipulators who seemed to work entirely from gut feeling and be entirely unaware of all the different techniques they were constantly using to get their own way.
sirtaj 9y ago
This is ascribing to Trump a level of subtlety and diplomatic intelligence that has not been in evidence in any way to date. In order to believe he is capable of 4D chess, we have to first believe he can play 2D chess.
NicoJuicy 9y ago
Why do you think Trump is that smart? The only success he had was: Trump Tower, renting out his name because of Trump Tower, a tv-show because of Trump Tower. He wouldn't be anything without his dad's money or a very lucky investment. He was in a helicopter and thought, hey. I want that big ass tower. I can buy it and he calls his dad.
- wolco 9y ago
  The only success is Trump Tower? It is a sad and false meme. Are we forgetting that Trump became president without any support from his party. He crashed the party changed the playbook and won. If becoming president isn't a success what is?
  - nkassis 9y ago
    This is a simplistic and false as the narrative you are attacking.
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  - NicoJuicy 9y ago
    Successfully finishing it, I doubt he will manage that. PS. Why did he won? He became president because everybody thaught he was a smart business man ( and not a politician), because he appeared in a tv-show ( the apprentice - which is about "smart businessmen" ) because of Trump Tower. And did you ever look at who "produced" the apprentice? Guess who claims that "Trump" is a good businessman.... Your statement still doesn't falsify mine.
- topmonk 9y ago
  Wow! I didn't know you could make $10 billion from renting out a tower and having a tv-show. Maybe the government should build 100 of these, and hire 100 idiots to run them and start their own tv-shows. They could earn $1 trillon and pay back a big chunk of the national debt with people that obviously have no skills whatsoever!
headShrinker 9y ago
> Trump lies in order to get the media to cover the topic he's talking about Sorry, I don’t think he’s that slick. People seem to give him the traits of a cunning cheetah. I see him more as a rich brat who lies constantly avoid injuring his pride, or reputation. Occasionally he says something so salacious the media can’t contain it’s self. But there is no rhyme or reason to the lies. They are constant, stupid, and easily fact-checkable. That’s a dumb person. Lie about something that can’t be fact checked, that’s smart. Look at the mess trump created by lying about the crowd size, wiretapping, firing the fbi director, calling dead soldier’s parents,etc. An example of this maybe ‘but the news moved to cover the lie instead of Puerto Rico’... in truth, PR’s story died to the news media a week ago. There’s nothing more to say about it. The lie about Obama not calling parent’s of solders was just a lie of a 5 year old intellect.
- zzzeek 9y ago
  Both can be true. The cheetah acts out of instinct, not intelligence. His stupidity and ignorance shaped his personality but it also gets a result that works for him.

sudhirj 9y ago

Why attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity?

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_0ffh 9y ago
Or maybe a combination of the two? I have met quite accomplished manipulators who seemed to work entirely from gut feeling and be entirely unaware of all the different techniques they were constantly using to get their own way.

sirtaj 9y ago

This is ascribing to Trump a level of subtlety and diplomatic intelligence that has not been in evidence in any way to date. In order to believe he is capable of 4D chess, we have to first believe he can play 2D chess.

NicoJuicy 9y ago

Why do you think Trump is that smart? The only success he had was: Trump Tower, renting out his name because of Trump Tower, a tv-show because of Trump Tower. He wouldn't be anything without his dad's money or a very lucky investment. He was in a helicopter and thought, hey. I want that big ass tower. I can buy it and he calls his dad.

wolco 9y ago
The only success is Trump Tower? It is a sad and false meme. Are we forgetting that Trump became president without any support from his party. He crashed the party changed the playbook and won. If becoming president isn't a success what is?
- nkassis 9y ago
  This is a simplistic and false as the narrative you are attacking.
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- NicoJuicy 9y ago
  Successfully finishing it, I doubt he will manage that. PS. Why did he won? He became president because everybody thaught he was a smart business man ( and not a politician), because he appeared in a tv-show ( the apprentice - which is about "smart businessmen" ) because of Trump Tower. And did you ever look at who "produced" the apprentice? Guess who claims that "Trump" is a good businessman.... Your statement still doesn't falsify mine.
topmonk 9y ago
Wow! I didn't know you could make $10 billion from renting out a tower and having a tv-show. Maybe the government should build 100 of these, and hire 100 idiots to run them and start their own tv-shows. They could earn $1 trillon and pay back a big chunk of the national debt with people that obviously have no skills whatsoever!

headShrinker 9y ago

> Trump lies in order to get the media to cover the topic he's talking about Sorry, I don’t think he’s that slick. People seem to give him the traits of a cunning cheetah. I see him more as a rich brat who lies constantly avoid injuring his pride, or reputation. Occasionally he says something so salacious the media can’t contain it’s self. But there is no rhyme or reason to the lies. They are constant, stupid, and easily fact-checkable. That’s a dumb person. Lie about something that can’t be fact checked, that’s smart. Look at the mess trump created by lying about the crowd size, wiretapping, firing the fbi director, calling dead soldier’s parents,etc. An example of this maybe ‘but the news moved to cover the lie instead of Puerto Rico’... in truth, PR’s story died to the news media a week ago. There’s nothing more to say about it. The lie about Obama not calling parent’s of solders was just a lie of a 5 year old intellect.

zzzeek 9y ago
Both can be true. The cheetah acts out of instinct, not intelligence. His stupidity and ignorance shaped his personality but it also gets a result that works for him.