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I don’t know why we are thanking a successful company that is making tons of money (as thanks)... Why don’t we spend the time to thank the creators and support

I don’t know why we are thanking a successful company that is making tons of money (as thanks)... Why don’t we spend the time to thank the creators and supporters of open source projects instead?

milesokeefe 9y ago
Those aren’t mutually exclusive, both are good things and deserve appreciation.
SquareWheel 9y ago
Doesn't the four paragraphs linked answer your question exactly? >Before 2007, the way to participate in Open Source was fragmented. ... Nowadays doing Open Source is infinitely easier thanks to you, GitHub. You've provided the tools and the social conventions to make those days a thing of the past. Your impact in the Open Source movement is unprecedented.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
  No, that was just inevitable technological progress. Mind you that github did not invent git, nor the git workflows. Their primary contribution is that they extended git into a proprietary platform with network effects, so as to make everyone dependent on them.
  - SquareWheel 9y ago
    >No, that was just inevitable technological progress. So you're discounting their accomplishments because a company was destined to enter this niche? Nothing happens for free. It's the result of thousands of man hours. Github has done a lot of good in this space, and there's nothing wrong with showing some appreciation.
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
      > So you're discounting their accomplishments because a company was destined to enter this niche? No, I am discounting their accomplishments because their net contribution is negative due to the way they operate their business. > Github has done a lot of good in this space I disagree. > and there's nothing wrong with showing some appreciation. There is something very wrong with showing appreciation for something that is actually hurting you.
scrollaway 9y ago
> I don’t know why we are thanking a successful company that is making tons of money (as thanks)... I mean, other than to be nice to a service that a lot of people genuinely appreciate? It's also worth mentioning that Github is the primary reason why a lot of people have a job at all. Github resumes have immense weight in the industry nowadays.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
  Seriously? If github didn't exist, software companies simply wouldn't have employees? It is truly amazing how twisted a view people have of power structures ... the fact that github has installed themselves as a de-facto co-arbitrator for access to jobs is reinterpreted as a sort of philanthropic contribution to society.
  - scrollaway 9y ago
    My Github profile is, in fact, the reason I got several of my jobs and clients in the past and there's a bunch of other people I know this is the case for. It really is baffling how completely out of touch you are with the immense amount of benefit that the FOSS community and Github users have been reaping the past decade. You've equated Github to Oracle for some reason and are on a crusade against them, I don't get it. I truly don't get how you can be so hateful against people doing things right, versus the atrocious alternatives that exist out there. Perfect is the enemy of the good.
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
      > My Github profile is, in fact, the reason I got several of my jobs and clients in the past and there's a bunch of other people I know this is the case for. Which is great for you--but does that mean that without github, you wouldn't have a job? > It really is baffling how completely out of touch you are with the immense amount of benefit that the FOSS community and Github users have been reaping the past decade. Well, the thing is: How do you know that? It is really baffling to me how everyone seems to agree that that is the case, yet noone seems to actually be able to make a solid case why they think that. > You've equated Github to Oracle for some reason and are on a crusade against them, I don't get it. I truly don't get how you can be so hateful against people doing things right, versus the atrocious alternatives that exist out there. They absolutely are not doing things right, that is my whole point. > Perfect is the enemy of the good. Which is true--but also completely vacuous: What bad thing could you not justify using that adage?

I don’t know why we are thanking a successful company that is making tons of money (as thanks)... Why don’t we spend the time to thank the creators and supporters of open source projects instead?

milesokeefe 9y ago

Those aren’t mutually exclusive, both are good things and deserve appreciation.

SquareWheel 9y ago

Doesn't the four paragraphs linked answer your question exactly? >Before 2007, the way to participate in Open Source was fragmented. ... Nowadays doing Open Source is infinitely easier thanks to you, GitHub. You've provided the tools and the social conventions to make those days a thing of the past. Your impact in the Open Source movement is unprecedented.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
No, that was just inevitable technological progress. Mind you that github did not invent git, nor the git workflows. Their primary contribution is that they extended git into a proprietary platform with network effects, so as to make everyone dependent on them.
- SquareWheel 9y ago
  >No, that was just inevitable technological progress. So you're discounting their accomplishments because a company was destined to enter this niche? Nothing happens for free. It's the result of thousands of man hours. Github has done a lot of good in this space, and there's nothing wrong with showing some appreciation.
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
    > So you're discounting their accomplishments because a company was destined to enter this niche? No, I am discounting their accomplishments because their net contribution is negative due to the way they operate their business. > Github has done a lot of good in this space I disagree. > and there's nothing wrong with showing some appreciation. There is something very wrong with showing appreciation for something that is actually hurting you.

scrollaway 9y ago

> I don’t know why we are thanking a successful company that is making tons of money (as thanks)... I mean, other than to be nice to a service that a lot of people genuinely appreciate? It's also worth mentioning that Github is the primary reason why a lot of people have a job at all. Github resumes have immense weight in the industry nowadays.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
Seriously? If github didn't exist, software companies simply wouldn't have employees? It is truly amazing how twisted a view people have of power structures ... the fact that github has installed themselves as a de-facto co-arbitrator for access to jobs is reinterpreted as a sort of philanthropic contribution to society.
- scrollaway 9y ago
  My Github profile is, in fact, the reason I got several of my jobs and clients in the past and there's a bunch of other people I know this is the case for. It really is baffling how completely out of touch you are with the immense amount of benefit that the FOSS community and Github users have been reaping the past decade. You've equated Github to Oracle for some reason and are on a crusade against them, I don't get it. I truly don't get how you can be so hateful against people doing things right, versus the atrocious alternatives that exist out there. Perfect is the enemy of the good.
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
    > My Github profile is, in fact, the reason I got several of my jobs and clients in the past and there's a bunch of other people I know this is the case for. Which is great for you--but does that mean that without github, you wouldn't have a job? > It really is baffling how completely out of touch you are with the immense amount of benefit that the FOSS community and Github users have been reaping the past decade. Well, the thing is: How do you know that? It is really baffling to me how everyone seems to agree that that is the case, yet noone seems to actually be able to make a solid case why they think that. > You've equated Github to Oracle for some reason and are on a crusade against them, I don't get it. I truly don't get how you can be so hateful against people doing things right, versus the atrocious alternatives that exist out there. They absolutely are not doing things right, that is my whole point. > Perfect is the enemy of the good. Which is true--but also completely vacuous: What bad thing could you not justify using that adage?