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Whenever I hear that term I cringe a little. I think this was a word invented by developers (please correct me if I'm wrong) to bring sysadmins into the fold. I
by WestCoastJustin 16y ago
Whenever I hear that term I cringe a little. I think this was a word invented by developers (please correct me if I'm wrong) to bring sysadmins into the fold. It is definitely good to have an understanding of the application layer but developers also need to understand the systems running their applications.
I work in a large organization (5000+ employees) as a unix/linux sysadmin. You have to automate deployment, monitoring, configuration management because there just isn't time to do anything else. We have a group (about 4) out of 30+ that have an overall view of what you might call devops. The rest specilize in development or sysadmins. We meet once a week and review all progress on the dev/ops issues.
I like the term OpSec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_security http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_security) someone who looks after Systems/Security ;) Since a good system admin should also know a great deal about security. Maybe Dev/Op/Sec.. haha, but really ;)
p.s. I found that job posting to be full of PR fluff. It would be nice to see job posting actually post what their looking for in a distilled form.
- emcooke 16y agoThanks for the pointer to OpSec term. DevOpsSec... I sense a tshirt in the making?
- WestCoastJustin 16y agoI first heard about OpSec from Roland Dobbins with Arbor. Really smart fellow who has many suggestions on network design / defence. I just think people need to specialize in their field (+ a general knowledge of how the overall systems works). Almost how a carpenter, plumber, and electrician each specialize but probably have a general idea how everything works. Do you really want a plumber building the foundation of your house? Just seems a little silly to me. Each domain is so large that I would rather have deep expert knowledge in a area than a general handyman who might cut corners or waste time with solutions he doesn't know about.
- gaius 16y agoWe have a group (about 4) out of 30+ that have an overall view of what you might call devops This is called "second line support".