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It's not exactly make believe, it's about transferring crime to one that may be easier to prove (and therefore easier to prosecute) or which has a harsher senta
by eterm 9y ago
It's not exactly make believe, it's about transferring crime to one that may be easier to prove (and therefore easier to prosecute) or which has a harsher sentance.
If you didn't have signatures, it would be difficult to prove that someone was trying to steal your money if they paid with your card. They could come up with all kinds of excuses, such as "I thought it was my card", etc, to confuse the process.
With a signature, it doesn't matter if the person signs it mickey mouse, because it's not what is signed it's the act of signing itself which then puts fraud into play. They are signing that they are you, and at that point fraud is much easier to prove, since you can produce a video of them signing that they are you.
Also, the punishment is no longer dependent on how much they took or tried to take, because it's no longer about the taking of the money itself but about the fraudulent actions to do so.
Much of the financial system, particularly the older parts, are set up in the same way.. where security isn't about preventing the money being stolen, money can be easily corrected later (just edit it back into the account), it's about making it easy to catch and prosecute offenders. It's not difficult to rob a bank, you can just walk into a bank, ask for the money and they'll give it to you, it's difficult to do so and keep the money after-ward.
Security is provided by the legal system, not by ever stronger locks. I wonder if there's any way we can learn from that to improve security elsewhere such as online, or whether the international nature of the internet means that that model is broken. (For example see the SWIFT hacks, if they were carried out by NK then the legal system no longer works as a deterrent).
- pdfernhout 9y agoThank you for the insightful post on the interaction of security and the legal system -- including the question of whether the internet can benefit by that approach. Somewhat related to "money can be easily corrected later", digital system designers increasingly accept their system will get cracked into and the main issue is how to recover from that (at least operationally).
- MrQuincle 9y agoEven more important than the legal context, is the business case. Fraud for modern financial institutions is like deaths caused by self-driving cars. + It is a trade-off between costs of the fraud detection system versus money lost through fraud. + It is a trade-off between time it takes to do proper fraud detection versus losses by slower payment processes. I don't know about papers in this direction. Would be a fun read. A bit like the effect of voluntary disclosure of evaded taxes like in this working paper: https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/110841/1/cesifo_wp5349.pdf https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/110841/1/cesifo_wp53.... Is the net effect beneficial or does it lead to more tax evasion?