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What is the end game in this hypothetical fraud situation? - Fraudster gets hired and cannot do the job. They get let go. - Fraudster gets hired and can do th
by jakebasile 9y ago
What is the end game in this hypothetical fraud situation?
- Fraudster gets hired and cannot do the job. They get let go.
- Fraudster gets hired and can do the job. No harm.
- Fraudster gets hired and can kind of do the job. They get placed on a performance improvement plan, and you train them until they either can or cannot do the job.
Think of this from the perspective of both parties. I think the risk of this type of bad actor is wildly overstated.
- nicolashahn 9y agoIn scenario 1, fraudster is also getting paid, ties up members of your team attempting to train them, and your timeline of getting an actual hire is pushed out until the company figures out they messed up. Seems worth the effort to prevent.
- jakebasile 9y agoSome effort? Sure. Raking prospects over coals in discriminatory interviews that don’t actually test for coding ability? Nah. Bad hires are bad, not disastrous and the response in the industry is wildly out of proportion.
- mythrwy 9y ago-Fraudster gets hired and starts committing code. There is some disagreement as to whether the fraudster is a fraudster or not, but the non-technical boss sure loves him and they often go to lunch together. More code committed. Then he starts making major design decisions.
- jakebasile 9y agoSounds to me like an issue with the boss, not the hire alone. Why torture applicants?
- erik_seaberg 9y agoGood candidates don't think of writing code as torture. Talking about code is a necessity but not the best demonstration of skill.
- jakebasile 9y agoI never said that writing code is torture. CS trivia, whiteboard coding, unpaid homework assignments, and "hacker" online tests all have nothing to do with the job itself. Talking about code is the best way to demonstrate skill in a limited amount of time, such as an interview. I gain much more information about a person talking with them about development than I would through any of the above methods.