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Not like he is. If memory serves, if he tries to break a Sony device again, he faces massive fines, etc.

KGIII 9y ago
Do you have a good link for some backstory on this one? I'm not sure how that could even be possible in the legal frameworks.
- icebraining 9y ago
  Terms of the settlement: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-details-surface/1100-6308347/ https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-detai...
  - KGIII 9y ago
    Holy crap! Thanks! That's insane. I'm not a gamer but it looks like they just published how to "hack" the console and they were hit with that. That's crazy. In the span of a minute, I can think of a dozen better solutions to this. If I'm reading properly, they didn't even do anything that I'd call wrong. They found an exploit and published it. I suppose the DMCA and "circumvention tools" come into play - but that only points to the absurdity of the situation (at least in my opinion).
    - icebraining 9y ago
      Sony threw everything at them: DMCA, CFAA, copyright, California Computer Crime Law, even violating the PSN TOS.
      - KGIII 9y ago
        I support IP rights, as a general rule. However, they sure get abused. I'm kind of annoyed about this, even though I have nothing to do with it. If you break my system, thanks for letting us know. It'd be great if we could pay you to help fix our system and make it more difficult to break in the future. I'd not take them to court. I'd try to hire them. Hell, I'd give them reward money - even if they didn't want to be hired.
        ChristianBundy 9y ago
        Intellectual property is theft.
        KGIII 9y ago
        Sure, inasmuch as taking labor without payment is slavery.
        marcoperaza 9y ago
        Would you think so if you poured your soul into writing a book, only to have it copied and distributed without your permission, for someone else's profit?
        emodendroket 9y ago
        It's not exactly like that doesn't happen under our current system.
        pjmlp 9y ago
        So everyone working on books, movies and computer games is a theft apparently. Not everyone wants to give their work for free, dress in coloured cothles, sing about peace and love and grow tomatos in a community.
        Santosh83 9y ago
        No. Intellectual property is a legal concept supported by a framework of laws and regulations. In itself it doesn't constitute theft. Exactly how the laws are used or abused matters. Intention is everything. From one end of the spectrum of having all your productions distributed everywhere rendering you unable to sell it even for a pittance to coming down massively with locked down systems and lawyers and costly lawsuits to intimidate and harass people into buying your product over and above its subjective value... we need a balance like everywhere else. Absolute statements rarely cut it.
        deleted 9y ago
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Do you have a good link for some backstory on this one? I'm not sure how that could even be possible in the legal frameworks.

icebraining 9y ago
Terms of the settlement: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-details-surface/1100-6308347/ https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-detai...
- KGIII 9y ago
  Holy crap! Thanks! That's insane. I'm not a gamer but it looks like they just published how to "hack" the console and they were hit with that. That's crazy. In the span of a minute, I can think of a dozen better solutions to this. If I'm reading properly, they didn't even do anything that I'd call wrong. They found an exploit and published it. I suppose the DMCA and "circumvention tools" come into play - but that only points to the absurdity of the situation (at least in my opinion).
  - icebraining 9y ago
    Sony threw everything at them: DMCA, CFAA, copyright, California Computer Crime Law, even violating the PSN TOS.
    - KGIII 9y ago
      I support IP rights, as a general rule. However, they sure get abused. I'm kind of annoyed about this, even though I have nothing to do with it. If you break my system, thanks for letting us know. It'd be great if we could pay you to help fix our system and make it more difficult to break in the future. I'd not take them to court. I'd try to hire them. Hell, I'd give them reward money - even if they didn't want to be hired.
      - ChristianBundy 9y ago
        Intellectual property is theft.
        KGIII 9y ago
        Sure, inasmuch as taking labor without payment is slavery.
        marcoperaza 9y ago
        Would you think so if you poured your soul into writing a book, only to have it copied and distributed without your permission, for someone else's profit?
        emodendroket 9y ago
        It's not exactly like that doesn't happen under our current system.
        pjmlp 9y ago
        So everyone working on books, movies and computer games is a theft apparently. Not everyone wants to give their work for free, dress in coloured cothles, sing about peace and love and grow tomatos in a community.
        Santosh83 9y ago
        No. Intellectual property is a legal concept supported by a framework of laws and regulations. In itself it doesn't constitute theft. Exactly how the laws are used or abused matters. Intention is everything. From one end of the spectrum of having all your productions distributed everywhere rendering you unable to sell it even for a pittance to coming down massively with locked down systems and lawyers and costly lawsuits to intimidate and harass people into buying your product over and above its subjective value... we need a balance like everywhere else. Absolute statements rarely cut it.
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