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On many of the points he raises, no - they're not racist, they're factually correct, and point (IMO) to socio-economic and cultural problems. For example, the k
by duncan_bayne 9y ago
On many of the points he raises, no - they're not racist, they're factually correct, and point (IMO) to socio-economic and cultural problems. For example, the known issue about measured IQ in the black population being > 1 std dev less than the mean for the rest of the USA.
Having read through the material posted, though, it's clear he supports the idea of racial profiling and similar; literally judging individuals in part by their membership of a racial group, which is the very definition of racism.
I'm in the process of penning a blog post which will go into this in more detail, and which I'll invite him to comment on. I like to think (Don Hopkins' fearful warnings to the contrary) that he is a mostly reasonable person who could be convinced to change his opinion.
It will also contain a strong rebuttal of his points around agency and consent in the casting couch article, which are dangerously wrong.
So yes. With the caveat that it applies to only a subset of his stated opinions on race - I apologise and withdraw.
- DonHopkins 9y agoI'm also waiting for you to retract and apologize for your outrageous and disproven claim parroting ESR's lie that "affirmative action is racism!!!1!". You incorrectly said "Affirmative action _is_ racism, by definition, assuming you mean by that: basing your decision to hire in part on race." That is wrong. Very wrong. It proves you have absolutely no clue what racism is, and the incorrect definition you're parroting and spreading is white supremacist propaganda. I quoted a paragraph from an article that put into words why you are so very wrong. But you did not respond. It's very telling what you choose to ignore. What is your response to the fact that you deeply misunderstand what racism is, and what is your excuse for believing and spreading that noxious ignorant racist white supremacist propaganda that originated from Eric Raymond's blog? Once that's settled, we can go on to discuss which of his lies about global warming you also believe and parrot. Good luck in your quest to cure ESR of his racism, misogyny and narcissism. Maybe only you can solve that problem. Once you find just the right words to shut him up and make him look at himself and reflect on what he's said and done and feel remorse, and then you actually get him to read them, pay attention and respond without attacking and dismissing you, then maybe you should dedicate your efforts to curing Donald Trump, too. And Scoble could also use some of your help, too. So get started, good luck with that, and let us know how it goes! ;)
- duncan_bayne 9y agoYou'll be waiting a long time, Don. That opinion of affirmative action is based on Objectivist principles that pre-date my interest in ESRs opinions on same by around a decade. I don't know why you think that opinion originated with ESR, but your obsession with him as some sort of fountainhead of philosophical evil comes over as kind of funny.
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- DonHopkins 9y agoSo have you cured ESR of his sexism yet? Let's see your promised strong rebuttal of his latest sexist post, please. Did he respond by admitting he's wrong, apologizing and turning over a new leaf? Have you also written a strong rebuttal of his racism too, or are you going to let that slide? Is it your opinion that ESR and Trump and Hitler are not racist and shouldn't be taken to task for it, because only a subset of their stated opinions on race are racist and incorrect? Precisely where do you draw the line where that subset of someone's stated opinions being racist becomes intolerable -- 10%, 50%, 99%? Is it perfectly OK with you if Scoble and Weinstein and Trump only sexually assault a subset of the women in their respective industries?