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> The suicide might have happened anyway, but There has to be a better way for you to argue your position than hand-waving away the gravity of a suicide. If th

> The suicide might have happened anyway, but There has to be a better way for you to argue your position than hand-waving away the gravity of a suicide. If there isn’t, maybe that should tell you something.

protomyth 9y ago
I don’t hand wave the suicide. It is a horrible thing and all too common in some forgotten areas of the country. The lifetime scarring of a significant number of people is brutal. I dearly wish more attention were paid particularly when someone thinks it’s ok to send a bunch of partially trained individuals to stop a suicide cluster in a high school. I take suicide and the threat of suicide seriously. If the result is the worst possible one way (suicide and perpetrator walking free) then the other way at least might have resulted in a better outcome. Reading anything beyond that into what I wrote is just plain wrong.
- amazingman 9y ago
  You seem to be under the impression that there are only two “ways” to deal with situations having to do with sexual assault. I’m suggesting that perhaps it’s a bit more sophisticated of a discussion than that.
  - protomyth 9y ago
    There are multiple ways, but either the perpetrator had the cops called on them or they didn’t. That’s a binary choice. I don’t see how the above comment relates to your comment I responded to. You seem to be moving on from the ‘hand wave’ comment.
  - kols77 9y ago
    For anyone who isn't totally triggered and incapable of thinking by these debates please read Camille Paglia. Bottom line - if you are raising a daughter, do you want her to believe some white knight is going to come to her rescue every time she walks into a dark alley? This mentality is the first thing that breaks down self when dealing with a Harvey Weinstein. Camille Paglia explains this in a much more constructive way that I ever could.

protomyth 9y ago

I don’t hand wave the suicide. It is a horrible thing and all too common in some forgotten areas of the country. The lifetime scarring of a significant number of people is brutal. I dearly wish more attention were paid particularly when someone thinks it’s ok to send a bunch of partially trained individuals to stop a suicide cluster in a high school. I take suicide and the threat of suicide seriously. If the result is the worst possible one way (suicide and perpetrator walking free) then the other way at least might have resulted in a better outcome. Reading anything beyond that into what I wrote is just plain wrong.

amazingman 9y ago
You seem to be under the impression that there are only two “ways” to deal with situations having to do with sexual assault. I’m suggesting that perhaps it’s a bit more sophisticated of a discussion than that.
- protomyth 9y ago
  There are multiple ways, but either the perpetrator had the cops called on them or they didn’t. That’s a binary choice. I don’t see how the above comment relates to your comment I responded to. You seem to be moving on from the ‘hand wave’ comment.
- kols77 9y ago
  For anyone who isn't totally triggered and incapable of thinking by these debates please read Camille Paglia. Bottom line - if you are raising a daughter, do you want her to believe some white knight is going to come to her rescue every time she walks into a dark alley? This mentality is the first thing that breaks down self when dealing with a Harvey Weinstein. Camille Paglia explains this in a much more constructive way that I ever could.