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What is your solution? This course of action got the victim killed. If you don’t call the cops it will happen again. Sexual predators don’t stop at one. Lif

What is your solution? This course of action got the victim killed. If you don’t call the cops it will happen again. Sexual predators don’t stop at one. Life is devastated when you are the victim of a crime, but you need to save the next person too.

Mz 9y ago
This is a monstrous position. It should not be on the victim to be held responsible for the perpetrator's subsequent victims.
- protomyth 9y ago
  The world sucks, and inaction by a lot of people allows the Harvey Weinsteins of the world to keep up their hateful acts. Ideally the victim will have support needed, but these predators can only be stopped one way if you want to remain within the law. The predator is always the one responsible, always.
  - Mz 9y ago
    Please stop this. Throwing the victims to the wolves and not caring if they end up dead over your concept of justice is heinous. You are talking about additional ways to victimize them.
    - protomyth 9y ago
      I care deeply about the victim but the predator already showed up. How do you get the predator off the street? I care about rebuilding there life, but the person who torched it needs to be gone. You cannot have closure if you can bump into that person during a business meeting. You want silence and that hasn’t worked.
      - Mz 9y ago
        You are putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about wanting silence. My position is that we need to focus on prevention, not retribution. But when it has happened, the victim's first duty is self care, not falling on their sword to theoretically help others who may not benefit at all. Their right to choose must be honored. If you cannot abide by the imperative to "first do no harm," then please stay out of such things entirely.
        protomyth 9y ago
        Talk about putting words, the justice system and the people around the victim better not consider it falling on the sword. How are you going to prevent? About the only way is an armed person, because sexual predator are going to be predators. They will do it again, that’s part of what makes them so heinous. That is the psychology of these monsters. There is no “one and done” to this sickness.
        Mz 9y ago
        I was raped once, 40 years ago. I was 12. As an adult, I have never been assaulted. Your lack of knowledge about how to do this is not evidence it cannot be done. If you are genuinely interested, there are links in this very discussion to some of my blog posts that talk some about prevention. It isn't a topic easily summed up in a paragraph or three.
        protomyth 9y ago
        I am sorry for your youth taken away. I once worked around social services and saw the dead inside from an a wide spread problem. I saw what not getting rid of predators did on a generational level. I would prefer to cut the predators from the world.
        Mz 9y ago
        Predators were, themselves, victims first. Your approach is broken on the face of it. It entirely disregards one set of victims, those so damaged they spread the issue. Prevention is the only answer that is compassionate to all the victims, including those who have gone on to become predators. I don't need your pity. My soul is richer for having lived the life I have lived. You might try respecting my hard won wisdom instead of finding new ways to put down and dismiss someone who disagrees with your draconian approach.
Geekette 9y ago
A victim's main responsibility is to their self; trying to survive, heal and move forward in whatever way they can, not to relive their trauma. To prioritize future prevention above their self preservation by placing the burden of justice on an already suffering person's shoulders (as if there could possibly be better, nuanced ways to seek solutions) is just asinine.

Mz 9y ago

This is a monstrous position. It should not be on the victim to be held responsible for the perpetrator's subsequent victims.

protomyth 9y ago
The world sucks, and inaction by a lot of people allows the Harvey Weinsteins of the world to keep up their hateful acts. Ideally the victim will have support needed, but these predators can only be stopped one way if you want to remain within the law. The predator is always the one responsible, always.
- Mz 9y ago
  Please stop this. Throwing the victims to the wolves and not caring if they end up dead over your concept of justice is heinous. You are talking about additional ways to victimize them.
  - protomyth 9y ago
    I care deeply about the victim but the predator already showed up. How do you get the predator off the street? I care about rebuilding there life, but the person who torched it needs to be gone. You cannot have closure if you can bump into that person during a business meeting. You want silence and that hasn’t worked.
    - Mz 9y ago
      You are putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about wanting silence. My position is that we need to focus on prevention, not retribution. But when it has happened, the victim's first duty is self care, not falling on their sword to theoretically help others who may not benefit at all. Their right to choose must be honored. If you cannot abide by the imperative to "first do no harm," then please stay out of such things entirely.
      - protomyth 9y ago
        Talk about putting words, the justice system and the people around the victim better not consider it falling on the sword. How are you going to prevent? About the only way is an armed person, because sexual predator are going to be predators. They will do it again, that’s part of what makes them so heinous. That is the psychology of these monsters. There is no “one and done” to this sickness.
        Mz 9y ago
        I was raped once, 40 years ago. I was 12. As an adult, I have never been assaulted. Your lack of knowledge about how to do this is not evidence it cannot be done. If you are genuinely interested, there are links in this very discussion to some of my blog posts that talk some about prevention. It isn't a topic easily summed up in a paragraph or three.
        protomyth 9y ago
        I am sorry for your youth taken away. I once worked around social services and saw the dead inside from an a wide spread problem. I saw what not getting rid of predators did on a generational level. I would prefer to cut the predators from the world.
        Mz 9y ago
        Predators were, themselves, victims first. Your approach is broken on the face of it. It entirely disregards one set of victims, those so damaged they spread the issue. Prevention is the only answer that is compassionate to all the victims, including those who have gone on to become predators. I don't need your pity. My soul is richer for having lived the life I have lived. You might try respecting my hard won wisdom instead of finding new ways to put down and dismiss someone who disagrees with your draconian approach.

Geekette 9y ago

A victim's main responsibility is to their self; trying to survive, heal and move forward in whatever way they can, not to relive their trauma. To prioritize future prevention above their self preservation by placing the burden of justice on an already suffering person's shoulders (as if there could possibly be better, nuanced ways to seek solutions) is just asinine.