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I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project (https://nanagram.co https://nanagram.co) and I must say, it's been great to use

I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project (https://nanagram.co https://nanagram.co) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to the Beta 2.

th0br0 9y ago
Love the idea! Does this ship internationally? Some FAQ/ToS/etc would be good.
- andygcook 9y ago
  Thanks! And good point on the FAQs + TOS. Will add them to the to-do list. We're beta testing the app right now with friends & family and have made our first few deliveries already. The response has been great so far from people's grandparents. They love getting the prints in the mail with the captions to tell the story of the photo on them. We're going to be exploring international shipping soon. What country does the person you want to send photos to live in? [edit - spelling]
  - th0br0 9y ago
    Germany. Something like this also needs the ability to delay shipments - old people are more likely to be admitted to hospitals or similar.
    - andygcook 9y ago
      That's a good point too and something we hadn't considered. Would it work if the package was just delivered in the mail as usual and they could open it when they got home as something to look forward to?
      - th0br0 9y ago
        That assumes that old people live at home / have a regular mail box. What if they live in a nursing home or similar? Although 4x6 (10x15cm) is postcard format, so usual mailboxes should fit quite a number of those just fine.
        andygcook 9y ago
        The photos come in a pretty much regular sized envelope that fits in small mailboxes. I do like the idea of letting people pause a delay a delivery for whatever reason they want, or maybe even redirect it at the last minute if needed. Appreciate the feedback and ideas.
mattsidesinger 9y ago
I signed up for your service. Do you have any competitors in this space? I thought the experience overall was very simple. Are you thinking about adding options for the prints? For example, glossy v. matte or 4x6 v 5x7? Edit: I see you replied to someone else and I cannot tell if the service is actually live (as in my card is going to be charged and photos are going to ship).
- andygcook 9y ago
  It’s live, and thanks for signing up! The photos you text in will ship in a month from now. We’re definitly going to add other options in time. Right now we’re trying to get the MVP right with 4x6 glossy prints. There’s a few other services that let you send postcards (expensive) or use apps to let you grab pictures from your phone. The apps tend to have more friction than just sending an MMS and to my knowledge, we’re the only ones that let you add the captions for context for your grandparent. Would love feedback as you use it more. We’re pretth fast at building stuff and love hearing ideas from our customers.
  - mattsidesinger 9y ago
    Another option that would be good would be to allow to crop. I know I sent some photos in that are not 4:3 so I'm curious to know how they will print. I'm assuming they will be centered by whichever print to ship service, but others that may not understand what's happening here might have some heads chopped off in a printed picture.
- aacook 9y ago
  Thanks for signing up Matt. Just sent a response to the support ticket you sent. Thanks for taking the time to let us know about that bug. We have the ability to do matte or glossy already and I just need to get in there an add it as an option. I'll make a note to ping you once that's ready. The service is live and ready. Your first order will ship in 30 days from now! :)
dannytatom 9y ago
You have a f` floating on your landing page, under the photo next to "Never miss a photo"
- andygcook 9y ago
  Well, F... :) Thanks for pointing that out. Will get it fixed.
- aacook 9y ago
  That was totally my bad. Thanks for the heads up. The f` has been nuked.
badgers 9y ago
Your side project nanagram reminds me of a similar service, Pidgeonly, which allowed people to text photos to inmates that heard on an NPR podcast -- http://www.npr.org/2015/03/25/395238624/ex-inmate-uses-his-sentence-to-create-successful-business-plan http://www.npr.org/2015/03/25/395238624/ex-inmate-uses-his-s...
- andygcook 9y ago
  I hadn’t seen that. Sounds like an amazing story and will definitely check it out. Thanks for sharing.
Dowwie 9y ago
Have you considered using a guilt-driven pricing schedule? "Emotionally Distant Grandchild" , "Good Grandchild", "Nana's #1"
- andygcook 9y ago
  This comment actually made me laugh out loud. We didn’t put much thought into the pricing plan names to be honest. Will pitch this to my brother, who I built this out with over the last couple months.
  - aacook 9y ago
    Haha, yes. They were placeholders that ended up going live. Premier is named after our Grandpa, who calls things he loves "Premier". His friend he was in the Boy Scouts in during the 1940s is the Grandfather of Andy's best friend. Anytime my Grandpa talks about Andy's friend's family he calls them the "Premier Family of Weymouth" :) We'll probably keep the Premier plan but need to rename the others.
    - KGIII 9y ago
      Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN launch would be good? Pardon me, if I missed it and you've already done it. Still, I'll forward it to the appropriate old folks for you. Good luck! It looks like a brilliant idea and the name is fantastic! Edit: Also, the price for 100 is really, really low. I don't know about the math, but that's impressive. If you're able to profit at that amount, great. However, I expect a much higher price for that number and, if actually wanted, would pay more - assuming the pics are on good quality stock and well done. I could also see some value added services. Touch ups, fancy text, maybe frames at holiday season, border themes, things like that. For fancy text you may need to license fonts, by the way. Edit again: A second opinion says your top two package prices are too low and she says the price 'makes her suspicious.' I asked why and she says it makes her think they are of poor quality. I asked her about pricing she said, "The first one is $0.79, so $0.69, $0.59, $0.49. Something like that." That's official Old Lady pricing suggestions. In other words, your highest package would be closer to $49.99 per month. I kind of agree with her - it would be more valuable than the price listed, of only I had a use. She also suggested marketing it to the grandparents. Here is her quote, "Just market it to the grandparents. They will pay to have their kids send them pictures. It would be even better if they could choose a big package and let all their children send in pictures using the same account." That's close to verbatim. The grandparents would have an account and their multiple kids could all send in pictures to the same account. Err... She also suggests $X.XX/picture after X-amount of pictures. LOL It probably would have saved time to just give her the keyboard. She's very optimistic about your service.
cknoxrun 9y ago
We just launched our re-design using the beta (https://www.drugbank.ca https://www.drugbank.ca). We couldn't be happier as well.
ian0 9y ago
That is such a lovely service.
- andygcook 9y ago
  Thanks, Ian! Really appreciate the kind words. Our Grandma & Grandpa love it so far, especially my Grandpa. He’s almost deaf and can’t use the phone. Getting photos in the mail from our family helps him keep in touch with what everyone is up to in life between visits.
- aacook 9y ago
  The best side benefit so far is probably how it's getting Grandkids to visit their Grandparents more often. My fiance and I visited my future Grandma-in-law on the day her photos were delivered. They made plans to get together for breakfast monthly now. Good vibes!
sbuttgereit 9y ago
I think you and your brother are onto a nice little business (at the very least). I just sent your link to my wife who literally sends photo packages of our kid to her mother (who does not live independently and lives vicariously through the life of our kid). I appreciate that you're not fully up-and-running just yet, but from the looks of it, a little operational scaling may be in your future :-) Best of luck with the venture.
- andygcook 9y ago
  Thank you for sharing with your wife and for the positive vibes. We're technically up-and-running with a dozen customer, just haven't really stepped on the gas with growth yet. Want to make sure we work out the rest of the small first kinks before working on growing. Would love to have your wife sign up if she's interested and doesn't feel like sending photo packages manually anymore. Feel free to have her reach out to me - andygcook [at] gmail [dot] com with any questions too.
chuckdries 9y ago
Compress your images or something. I'm on gigabit and the page is still taking forever to load.
- andygcook 9y ago
  Thanks for the heads up. Thought we did compress them, but I missed admittedly huge 1.8MB photo. Should be faster now.
wmeredith 9y ago
Your hamburger menu doesn’t work for me. I’m on the latest version of mobile Safari.
- aacook 9y ago
  HN can be counted on to find any and all bugs! Squashed. Thank you.

th0br0 9y ago

Love the idea! Does this ship internationally? Some FAQ/ToS/etc would be good.

andygcook 9y ago
Thanks! And good point on the FAQs + TOS. Will add them to the to-do list. We're beta testing the app right now with friends & family and have made our first few deliveries already. The response has been great so far from people's grandparents. They love getting the prints in the mail with the captions to tell the story of the photo on them. We're going to be exploring international shipping soon. What country does the person you want to send photos to live in? [edit - spelling]
- th0br0 9y ago
  Germany. Something like this also needs the ability to delay shipments - old people are more likely to be admitted to hospitals or similar.
  - andygcook 9y ago
    That's a good point too and something we hadn't considered. Would it work if the package was just delivered in the mail as usual and they could open it when they got home as something to look forward to?
    - th0br0 9y ago
      That assumes that old people live at home / have a regular mail box. What if they live in a nursing home or similar? Although 4x6 (10x15cm) is postcard format, so usual mailboxes should fit quite a number of those just fine.
      - andygcook 9y ago
        The photos come in a pretty much regular sized envelope that fits in small mailboxes. I do like the idea of letting people pause a delay a delivery for whatever reason they want, or maybe even redirect it at the last minute if needed. Appreciate the feedback and ideas.

mattsidesinger 9y ago

I signed up for your service. Do you have any competitors in this space? I thought the experience overall was very simple. Are you thinking about adding options for the prints? For example, glossy v. matte or 4x6 v 5x7? Edit: I see you replied to someone else and I cannot tell if the service is actually live (as in my card is going to be charged and photos are going to ship).

andygcook 9y ago
It’s live, and thanks for signing up! The photos you text in will ship in a month from now. We’re definitly going to add other options in time. Right now we’re trying to get the MVP right with 4x6 glossy prints. There’s a few other services that let you send postcards (expensive) or use apps to let you grab pictures from your phone. The apps tend to have more friction than just sending an MMS and to my knowledge, we’re the only ones that let you add the captions for context for your grandparent. Would love feedback as you use it more. We’re pretth fast at building stuff and love hearing ideas from our customers.
- mattsidesinger 9y ago
  Another option that would be good would be to allow to crop. I know I sent some photos in that are not 4:3 so I'm curious to know how they will print. I'm assuming they will be centered by whichever print to ship service, but others that may not understand what's happening here might have some heads chopped off in a printed picture.
aacook 9y ago
Thanks for signing up Matt. Just sent a response to the support ticket you sent. Thanks for taking the time to let us know about that bug. We have the ability to do matte or glossy already and I just need to get in there an add it as an option. I'll make a note to ping you once that's ready. The service is live and ready. Your first order will ship in 30 days from now! :)

dannytatom 9y ago

You have a f` floating on your landing page, under the photo next to "Never miss a photo"

andygcook 9y ago
Well, F... :) Thanks for pointing that out. Will get it fixed.
aacook 9y ago
That was totally my bad. Thanks for the heads up. The f` has been nuked.

badgers 9y ago

Your side project nanagram reminds me of a similar service, Pidgeonly, which allowed people to text photos to inmates that heard on an NPR podcast -- http://www.npr.org/2015/03/25/395238624/ex-inmate-uses-his-sentence-to-create-successful-business-plan http://www.npr.org/2015/03/25/395238624/ex-inmate-uses-his-s...

andygcook 9y ago
I hadn’t seen that. Sounds like an amazing story and will definitely check it out. Thanks for sharing.

Dowwie 9y ago

Have you considered using a guilt-driven pricing schedule? "Emotionally Distant Grandchild" , "Good Grandchild", "Nana's #1"

andygcook 9y ago
This comment actually made me laugh out loud. We didn’t put much thought into the pricing plan names to be honest. Will pitch this to my brother, who I built this out with over the last couple months.
- aacook 9y ago
  Haha, yes. They were placeholders that ended up going live. Premier is named after our Grandpa, who calls things he loves "Premier". His friend he was in the Boy Scouts in during the 1940s is the Grandfather of Andy's best friend. Anytime my Grandpa talks about Andy's friend's family he calls them the "Premier Family of Weymouth" :) We'll probably keep the Premier plan but need to rename the others.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN launch would be good? Pardon me, if I missed it and you've already done it. Still, I'll forward it to the appropriate old folks for you. Good luck! It looks like a brilliant idea and the name is fantastic! Edit: Also, the price for 100 is really, really low. I don't know about the math, but that's impressive. If you're able to profit at that amount, great. However, I expect a much higher price for that number and, if actually wanted, would pay more - assuming the pics are on good quality stock and well done. I could also see some value added services. Touch ups, fancy text, maybe frames at holiday season, border themes, things like that. For fancy text you may need to license fonts, by the way. Edit again: A second opinion says your top two package prices are too low and she says the price 'makes her suspicious.' I asked why and she says it makes her think they are of poor quality. I asked her about pricing she said, "The first one is $0.79, so $0.69, $0.59, $0.49. Something like that." That's official Old Lady pricing suggestions. In other words, your highest package would be closer to $49.99 per month. I kind of agree with her - it would be more valuable than the price listed, of only I had a use. She also suggested marketing it to the grandparents. Here is her quote, "Just market it to the grandparents. They will pay to have their kids send them pictures. It would be even better if they could choose a big package and let all their children send in pictures using the same account." That's close to verbatim. The grandparents would have an account and their multiple kids could all send in pictures to the same account. Err... She also suggests $X.XX/picture after X-amount of pictures. LOL It probably would have saved time to just give her the keyboard. She's very optimistic about your service.

cknoxrun 9y ago

We just launched our re-design using the beta (https://www.drugbank.ca https://www.drugbank.ca). We couldn't be happier as well.

ian0 9y ago

That is such a lovely service.

andygcook 9y ago
Thanks, Ian! Really appreciate the kind words. Our Grandma & Grandpa love it so far, especially my Grandpa. He’s almost deaf and can’t use the phone. Getting photos in the mail from our family helps him keep in touch with what everyone is up to in life between visits.
aacook 9y ago
The best side benefit so far is probably how it's getting Grandkids to visit their Grandparents more often. My fiance and I visited my future Grandma-in-law on the day her photos were delivered. They made plans to get together for breakfast monthly now. Good vibes!

sbuttgereit 9y ago

I think you and your brother are onto a nice little business (at the very least). I just sent your link to my wife who literally sends photo packages of our kid to her mother (who does not live independently and lives vicariously through the life of our kid). I appreciate that you're not fully up-and-running just yet, but from the looks of it, a little operational scaling may be in your future :-) Best of luck with the venture.

andygcook 9y ago
Thank you for sharing with your wife and for the positive vibes. We're technically up-and-running with a dozen customer, just haven't really stepped on the gas with growth yet. Want to make sure we work out the rest of the small first kinks before working on growing. Would love to have your wife sign up if she's interested and doesn't feel like sending photo packages manually anymore. Feel free to have her reach out to me - andygcook [at] gmail [dot] com with any questions too.

chuckdries 9y ago

Compress your images or something. I'm on gigabit and the page is still taking forever to load.

andygcook 9y ago
Thanks for the heads up. Thought we did compress them, but I missed admittedly huge 1.8MB photo. Should be faster now.

wmeredith 9y ago

Your hamburger menu doesn’t work for me. I’m on the latest version of mobile Safari.

aacook 9y ago
HN can be counted on to find any and all bugs! Squashed. Thank you.