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No, but I'd rather have sophisticated vote ring detection instead of mods having to police the verbiage used in a social media post on another platform. Or havi
by ballenf 9y ago
No, but I'd rather have sophisticated vote ring detection instead of mods having to police the verbiage used in a social media post on another platform. Or having to worry myself about being too excited about my product's launch.
The policing of verbiage is so hard. If I posted the exact same thing to my followers that some paid influencer did, the effect would me markedly different. I would likely get 0-2 votes from my post, because I have real world friends as followers few of whom have accounts here. My point is that the same words used by different people can have very different implied meaning and outcomes.
It just doesn't make sense to me to judge a post on the words used(1) instead of looking at the voting patterns. For example, what if someone not involved with the project just loves it and spontaneously posts about it? Should the project creators be punished for that independent act? I'd say, yes, but only if it looks like a vote ring.
(1) You could make an exception for blatant vote begging, but even that would be caught by a good vote ring algorithm.
- tptacek 9y agoPart of the problem is the mindset that you're being "punished" when a story about your project is kept off the front page. In any case, you have to look at the whole thing as a system. If you allow people to point to their HN submissions on Twitter, the site will be unduly influenced by Twitter, rather than by the community that actually uses and contributes to the site. It's not a matter of intention --- I'm annoyed too that I can't casually link to things from Twitter! --- but of empirical fact.