Agree that we're pretty much in line. Your arguments echo those you might hear from a "dissenter" type in the "spiritual but not religious" movement [0]: https

Agree that we're pretty much in line. Your arguments echo those you might hear from a "dissenter" type in the "spiritual but not religious" movement [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious > ... personally I think that 'men of the cloth' are criminals of the worst order, they willingly and knowingly spread mental viruses that cause great harm to society. I think this is probably the place where we differ the most. I think the people you discuss certainly exist. I think there's also people in those positions for the right reasons. As usual with any potential stereotype, it's important to look at individuals as individuals. (That said, the "seed faith" movement [1] needs to be nuked from orbit.) [0] Not that I'm aligning you to the movement. I'm just noting the similarity. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg --- On the aside of my usage of "DAE", in this particular case it's a bit of a tongue-in-cheek reference along the lines of "preaching to the choir". That is, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that any argument presented as "rationality vs dogma" would have a population heavily leaning towards the former in this forum.