Yeah, but basic news or discussion sites didn't use Flash. In fact, the vast majority of sites didn't; or only used it for games or video - i.e. use cases that

Yeah, but basic news or discussion sites didn't use Flash. In fact, the vast majority of sites didn't; or only used it for games or video - i.e. use cases that called for it. And "Flash sucked" is no excuse for the web being bloated and delivering text content in ridiculously stupid ways today.