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Funny because it started as a breakthrough therapy drug which Shulgin and a few psychiatrists and escaped to become a club drug, especially in Texas. This lead

Funny because it started as a breakthrough therapy drug which Shulgin and a few psychiatrists and escaped to become a club drug, especially in Texas. This lead to it being placed in schedule 1 by the DEA, against recommendations by doctors and scientists, that it should be allowed to be researched. The DEA did this by passing a special law giving them emergency powers. http://www.maps.org/research-archive/dea-mdma/ http://www.maps.org/research-archive/dea-mdma/ Having had experience with MDMA I can attest to it’s near magical therapeutic powers. But no drug is a panacea and it can certainly have drastic side effects, particularly when abused but even if not.

celticninja 9y ago
Yeah this is essentially it coming full circle. This book [0] is a great read on the history and use of Ecstasy and covers it's early therapeutic uses and how it progressed to party drug. [0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecstasy-Dance-Culture-Nicholas-Saunders/dp/0950162892 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecstasy-Dance-Culture-Nicholas-Saun...
sixQuarks 9y ago
After watching the 60 minutes expose on the DEO and how they helped cause the opioid epidemic, the DEO literally does the opposite of what they're supposed to. They make it easier to get dangerous drugs into the wrong hands, while preventing helpful drugs to those who need it most.
- tim333 9y ago
  I guess you're referring to this thing? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-agent-opioid-crisis-fueled-by-drug-industry-and-congress/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-agent-opioid-crisis-fuel... >Ex-DEA agent: Opioid crisis fueled by drug industry and Congress Whistleblower Joe Rannazzisi says drug distributors pumped opioids into U.S. communities -- knowing that people were dying -- and says industry lobbyists and Congress derailed the DEA's efforts to stop it
anythingnonidin 9y ago
To add to the other comment, I highly recommend 'Acid Test' to get an overview of the history and potential of MDMA + other drugs like magic mushrooms. https://www.audible.com/pd/History/Acid-Test-Audiobook/B00MPWQOSS https://www.audible.com/pd/History/Acid-Test-Audiobook/B00MP...
- liquids 9y ago
  Thanks for this. I'm curious to hear why something that has such remarkable potential to improve lives, has somehow been channeled into a social taboo.
  - nitrogen 9y ago
    When something competes with established channels for individual fulfillment, the people who control those channels (politicians, manufacturers, priests, ministers) will oppose, vilify, and demonize it.
- noahdesu 9y ago
  This is a great read.
lottin 9y ago
It can be a nice experience, but I wouldn't call it therapeutic. I mean, it won't change your personality or anything like that.
- ci5er 9y ago
  That's a nice opinion. Be a shame if anything ever happened to it. I hope you have others that you can share.
- alsetmusic 9y ago
  > I mean, it won't change your personality or anything like that. I was on MDMA in 2000 when I finally saw through my own bigotry. I had been raised with a particular set of values about a group due to the prejudice of a parent. I have always attributed that personal breakthrough to the drug. This still might have occurred naturally, albeit at a slower rate, but it shattered my worldview in a very positive way in one night. I could go on about personality changes that were directly linked to another chemical, but the point is that just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean that it hasn’t happened to someone else.
- ada1981 9y ago
  False. When used in the right set & setting MDMA can have profound impacts on people's lives. The book Trust Surrender Receive has 40+ accounts of people use did underground therapy with amazing results. http://bit.ly/mdmabook http://bit.ly/mdmabook
  - ada1981 9y ago
    Update: author website: http://AnneOther.com http://AnneOther.com
- protomyth 9y ago
  Did you use it in a clinical setting under a doctor’s care?
- acchow 9y ago
  I know a ton of people that have been helped dramatically with MDMA. Most commonly lifted out of depression, permanently.

celticninja 9y ago

Yeah this is essentially it coming full circle. This book [0] is a great read on the history and use of Ecstasy and covers it's early therapeutic uses and how it progressed to party drug. [0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecstasy-Dance-Culture-Nicholas-Saunders/dp/0950162892 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecstasy-Dance-Culture-Nicholas-Saun...

sixQuarks 9y ago

After watching the 60 minutes expose on the DEO and how they helped cause the opioid epidemic, the DEO literally does the opposite of what they're supposed to. They make it easier to get dangerous drugs into the wrong hands, while preventing helpful drugs to those who need it most.

tim333 9y ago
I guess you're referring to this thing? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-agent-opioid-crisis-fueled-by-drug-industry-and-congress/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-agent-opioid-crisis-fuel... >Ex-DEA agent: Opioid crisis fueled by drug industry and Congress Whistleblower Joe Rannazzisi says drug distributors pumped opioids into U.S. communities -- knowing that people were dying -- and says industry lobbyists and Congress derailed the DEA's efforts to stop it

anythingnonidin 9y ago

To add to the other comment, I highly recommend 'Acid Test' to get an overview of the history and potential of MDMA + other drugs like magic mushrooms. https://www.audible.com/pd/History/Acid-Test-Audiobook/B00MPWQOSS https://www.audible.com/pd/History/Acid-Test-Audiobook/B00MP...

liquids 9y ago
Thanks for this. I'm curious to hear why something that has such remarkable potential to improve lives, has somehow been channeled into a social taboo.
- nitrogen 9y ago
  When something competes with established channels for individual fulfillment, the people who control those channels (politicians, manufacturers, priests, ministers) will oppose, vilify, and demonize it.
noahdesu 9y ago
This is a great read.

lottin 9y ago

It can be a nice experience, but I wouldn't call it therapeutic. I mean, it won't change your personality or anything like that.

ci5er 9y ago
That's a nice opinion. Be a shame if anything ever happened to it. I hope you have others that you can share.
alsetmusic 9y ago
> I mean, it won't change your personality or anything like that. I was on MDMA in 2000 when I finally saw through my own bigotry. I had been raised with a particular set of values about a group due to the prejudice of a parent. I have always attributed that personal breakthrough to the drug. This still might have occurred naturally, albeit at a slower rate, but it shattered my worldview in a very positive way in one night. I could go on about personality changes that were directly linked to another chemical, but the point is that just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean that it hasn’t happened to someone else.
ada1981 9y ago
False. When used in the right set & setting MDMA can have profound impacts on people's lives. The book Trust Surrender Receive has 40+ accounts of people use did underground therapy with amazing results. http://bit.ly/mdmabook http://bit.ly/mdmabook
- ada1981 9y ago
  Update: author website: http://AnneOther.com http://AnneOther.com
protomyth 9y ago
Did you use it in a clinical setting under a doctor’s care?
acchow 9y ago
I know a ton of people that have been helped dramatically with MDMA. Most commonly lifted out of depression, permanently.