Our 'app' runs on a radiator valve (!) and absolutely our design / privacy philosophy is that we can do a decent job without data leaving the radiator, noticeab

Our 'app' runs on a radiator valve (!) and absolutely our design / privacy philosophy is that we can do a decent job without data leaving the radiator, noticeably better if we can share it within the house, and only after that and with consent, a little better still with some 'cloud' help! https://www.earth.org.uk/OpenTRV-demo.html https://www.earth.org.uk/OpenTRV-demo.html I generally think apps on phones are a poor deal for security and reliability, so there is scope for using browsers as a portable virtual machine for all but the most critical/local of services. I was thinking this this morning before I noticed the HN story! So, I like my pages to be clean and small, and I'd like Web apps to be distinct and reliable, and in some cases work off-line to avoid the need for walled-garden native code.