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Snap wasn't a great example. They don't do anything that other Silicon Valley giants can't do. It's just messaging with a twist. Google has gchat/g+, Facebook

Snap wasn't a great example. They don't do anything that other Silicon Valley giants can't do. It's just messaging with a twist. Google has gchat/g+, Facebook has messenger/WhatsApp, Apple has iMessage. Snap is no Slack: it serves no niche that cannot be replicated by a company with an existing messaging service and a huge existing user base.

xigency 9y ago
Couldn't Slack be more easily replicated by these companies? At least SnapChat has a creative element to it.
- bpicolo 9y ago
  They are literally all trying to be slack, and their offerings don't live up to slack. https://www.facebook.com/workplace/ https://www.facebook.com/workplace/ https://products.office.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software https://products.office.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/group-chat... https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/meet-the-new-enterprise-focused-hangouts/ https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/meet-the-new-enterp... https://chime.aws/ https://chime.aws/ That's a big theme lately. They all create copies of latest-billion-dollar business-targeted services, and release before they're fully baked. That's totally the startup approach, but it doesn't feel like an approach that works well when there's already a market leader doing the same thing but significantly better. BI is another similar area. Quicksight and Data Studio are amazingly deficient compared to Tableau. Data studio can't join SQL tables, and Quicksight leaves you hitting bugs every other page and tried too hard to support fancy charts, but entirely forgot the basic "display some tabular data" option. (Power BI by MSFT does a bit better as I understand it, but is msft-tech-focused. Haven't tried it).
  - xigency 9y ago
    Well, SnapChat is six years old and Slack is four years old. And SnapChat has only been losing steam lately, as I can tell. So give it another two years before making a judgement.

xigency 9y ago

Couldn't Slack be more easily replicated by these companies? At least SnapChat has a creative element to it.

bpicolo 9y ago
They are literally all trying to be slack, and their offerings don't live up to slack. https://www.facebook.com/workplace/ https://www.facebook.com/workplace/ https://products.office.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software https://products.office.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/group-chat... https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/meet-the-new-enterprise-focused-hangouts/ https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/meet-the-new-enterp... https://chime.aws/ https://chime.aws/ That's a big theme lately. They all create copies of latest-billion-dollar business-targeted services, and release before they're fully baked. That's totally the startup approach, but it doesn't feel like an approach that works well when there's already a market leader doing the same thing but significantly better. BI is another similar area. Quicksight and Data Studio are amazingly deficient compared to Tableau. Data studio can't join SQL tables, and Quicksight leaves you hitting bugs every other page and tried too hard to support fancy charts, but entirely forgot the basic "display some tabular data" option. (Power BI by MSFT does a bit better as I understand it, but is msft-tech-focused. Haven't tried it).
- xigency 9y ago
  Well, SnapChat is six years old and Slack is four years old. And SnapChat has only been losing steam lately, as I can tell. So give it another two years before making a judgement.