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Not to mention HiDPI problems and serious issues with the proprietary nvidia driver. The situation is improving all the time though and hopefully this should ma

Not to mention HiDPI problems and serious issues with the proprietary nvidia driver. The situation is improving all the time though and hopefully this should mark the beginning of some good times for Wayland. More choice is always a good thing. Of course, the option is right there on the login screen to start an X session instead, if Wayland doesn't work for you.

tonyedgecombe 9y ago
That's interesting, I was hoping for some improvements in HiDPI support with the shift to Wayland.
- lultimouomo 9y ago
  On a Debain sid install I was somehow recently bumped from Gnome3 on X11 toi Gnome3 on wayland. Chromium and Qt apps got broken scaling; I solved it by forcing the session to be Gnome3 on X11. This is just anecdote of course! I would have liked to dig more into it and figure things out, but honestly I just had too much to do and chose whatever was working for me.
  - jbicha 9y ago
    Have you tried again after upgrading to gnome-shell 3.26 (it's only been in Debian unstable for one week)?
    - lultimouomo 9y ago
      Tried right now; QtCreator and chromium are still broken. Curiously, the former is super tiny and the latter huge!
ganeshkrishnan 9y ago
No issues with Gnome 3.26 HiDPI on Wayland using nvidia driver. I was running alpha version of 17.10 on my Dell XPS with minimal issues
- bklaasen 9y ago
  Which generation XPS is that?
  - ganeshkrishnan 9y ago
    XPS 9560
madez 9y ago
I recommend everybody intending to run Linux to avoid nvidia GPUs. The experience with amd and intel GPUs is vastly superior.
- rootbear 9y ago
  I use nothing but Nvidia on Linux. Their performance and stability is greatly superior to AMD on high-end 3D applications such as Maya. I'll admit, I have not revisited AMD cards in a while, so perhaps I'm out of touch with the current generation. I also do not consider the open source nouveau driver to be acceptable. I've had too many problems with it in 3D apps.
  - danieldk 9y ago
    But their proprietary driver is lagging behind a lot of the ecosystem. E.g. until recently their driver did not work with Wayland/mutter because NVIDIA was pushing their own device memory allocator (via the EGLStreams API). It seems that it now finally works, but is very slow. In contrast, AMD is actively contributing to the open source amdgpu driver.
    - rootbear 9y ago
      Yes, I wish Nvidia was a bit more generous with the open source community, but for some situations, they are the best choice, if not the only choice.
    - plus 9y ago
      >until recently their driver did not work with Wayland/mutter because NVIDIA was pushing their own device memory allocator (via the EGLStreams API). It seems that it now finally works, but is very slow. Can you give a source for this? I'd be very much interested in trying out Plasma on Wayland on NVIDIA, but I can't find any information about NVIDIA implementing GBM.
  - smacktoward 9y ago
    Your experience is not incompatible with the parent commenter's. On Linux, generally speaking, Intel > NVidia > AMD.
hyperbovine 9y ago
I'm writing this on 17.10, a 1080Ti and a 4k monitor. Other than the lack of video acceleration in any browser (which is not specific to this setup), it's fine.

tonyedgecombe 9y ago

That's interesting, I was hoping for some improvements in HiDPI support with the shift to Wayland.

lultimouomo 9y ago
On a Debain sid install I was somehow recently bumped from Gnome3 on X11 toi Gnome3 on wayland. Chromium and Qt apps got broken scaling; I solved it by forcing the session to be Gnome3 on X11. This is just anecdote of course! I would have liked to dig more into it and figure things out, but honestly I just had too much to do and chose whatever was working for me.
- jbicha 9y ago
  Have you tried again after upgrading to gnome-shell 3.26 (it's only been in Debian unstable for one week)?
  - lultimouomo 9y ago
    Tried right now; QtCreator and chromium are still broken. Curiously, the former is super tiny and the latter huge!

ganeshkrishnan 9y ago

No issues with Gnome 3.26 HiDPI on Wayland using nvidia driver. I was running alpha version of 17.10 on my Dell XPS with minimal issues

bklaasen 9y ago
Which generation XPS is that?
- ganeshkrishnan 9y ago
  XPS 9560

madez 9y ago

I recommend everybody intending to run Linux to avoid nvidia GPUs. The experience with amd and intel GPUs is vastly superior.

rootbear 9y ago
I use nothing but Nvidia on Linux. Their performance and stability is greatly superior to AMD on high-end 3D applications such as Maya. I'll admit, I have not revisited AMD cards in a while, so perhaps I'm out of touch with the current generation. I also do not consider the open source nouveau driver to be acceptable. I've had too many problems with it in 3D apps.
- danieldk 9y ago
  But their proprietary driver is lagging behind a lot of the ecosystem. E.g. until recently their driver did not work with Wayland/mutter because NVIDIA was pushing their own device memory allocator (via the EGLStreams API). It seems that it now finally works, but is very slow. In contrast, AMD is actively contributing to the open source amdgpu driver.
  - rootbear 9y ago
    Yes, I wish Nvidia was a bit more generous with the open source community, but for some situations, they are the best choice, if not the only choice.
  - plus 9y ago
    >until recently their driver did not work with Wayland/mutter because NVIDIA was pushing their own device memory allocator (via the EGLStreams API). It seems that it now finally works, but is very slow. Can you give a source for this? I'd be very much interested in trying out Plasma on Wayland on NVIDIA, but I can't find any information about NVIDIA implementing GBM.
- smacktoward 9y ago
  Your experience is not incompatible with the parent commenter's. On Linux, generally speaking, Intel > NVidia > AMD.

hyperbovine 9y ago

I'm writing this on 17.10, a 1080Ti and a 4k monitor. Other than the lack of video acceleration in any browser (which is not specific to this setup), it's fine.