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It's only worth it if it makes a difference in performance. That's far from established fact.

_pi 16y ago
You point is analogous to the idea of sales and marketing in start-up culture. Essentially how do you prove that this multimillion dollar deal was the result of the person being "fresh" rather than the product itself etc. As far as I know if you're being flown out as a sales rep already, you have to be an utter asshole for the customer to change his mind. The product/engineering teams are the ones that actually have to impress them. In all honesty when a company through a rep wine and dines a client, the rep wine and dines themselves.
arethuza 16y ago
Conversation like this are not unknown: "We need you to fly to <FarFarAway>, urgently!" "Business class?" "No" "OK I'm not going then" "Business class it is then!"
- gamble 16y ago
  It's fine to suffer in coach during international flights if you're a vacationer who only takes one or two long trips per year - totally different if you're a frequent flyer. I'd be extremely reluctant to take any job that required me to fly international coach regularly.
- houseabsolute 16y ago
  That demonstrates a sense of entitlement. I'm looking for some evidence that flying business class improves performance on arrival compared to economy. Totally different things.
hugh3 16y ago
On an overnight flight? Huge difference in performance, at least if you're me. I can't sleep at all in economy, which if you're flying 20+ hours is a really big problem. I've never tried first class, but I'm sure it'd be much easier to sleep up there, what with the lie-flat beds and all.
- gaius 16y ago
  It's the whole business class package. Fast track through security, a quiet lounge where you can work, enough carry-on that you never need to check a bag, etc etc. Plus you get to only be around frequent flyers, so no hassle with people who don't know that they should take their keys out of their pockets BEFORE reaching security... Several airlines now are doing flat beds in Business and private cabins in First.
- kscaldef 16y ago
  earplugs, sleep mask, ambien.

_pi 16y ago

You point is analogous to the idea of sales and marketing in start-up culture. Essentially how do you prove that this multimillion dollar deal was the result of the person being "fresh" rather than the product itself etc. As far as I know if you're being flown out as a sales rep already, you have to be an utter asshole for the customer to change his mind. The product/engineering teams are the ones that actually have to impress them. In all honesty when a company through a rep wine and dines a client, the rep wine and dines themselves.

arethuza 16y ago

Conversation like this are not unknown: "We need you to fly to <FarFarAway>, urgently!" "Business class?" "No" "OK I'm not going then" "Business class it is then!"

gamble 16y ago
It's fine to suffer in coach during international flights if you're a vacationer who only takes one or two long trips per year - totally different if you're a frequent flyer. I'd be extremely reluctant to take any job that required me to fly international coach regularly.
houseabsolute 16y ago
That demonstrates a sense of entitlement. I'm looking for some evidence that flying business class improves performance on arrival compared to economy. Totally different things.

hugh3 16y ago

On an overnight flight? Huge difference in performance, at least if you're me. I can't sleep at all in economy, which if you're flying 20+ hours is a really big problem. I've never tried first class, but I'm sure it'd be much easier to sleep up there, what with the lie-flat beds and all.

gaius 16y ago
It's the whole business class package. Fast track through security, a quiet lounge where you can work, enough carry-on that you never need to check a bag, etc etc. Plus you get to only be around frequent flyers, so no hassle with people who don't know that they should take their keys out of their pockets BEFORE reaching security... Several airlines now are doing flat beds in Business and private cabins in First.
kscaldef 16y ago
earplugs, sleep mask, ambien.