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The article says that the primary problem is the number of eligible volunteers. Changing what wars are fought isn't going to affect individuals ability to pass

The article says that the primary problem is the number of eligible volunteers. Changing what wars are fought isn't going to affect individuals ability to pass military fitness and character tests. If the problem was that there are so many eligible people, but nobody wants to volunteer, then you might be on to something.

0xbear 9y ago
29% is tens of millions of people. I just pointed out why people might be reluctant to volunteer.
- parent5446 9y ago
  Have you read the article? It says the effective recruiting pool is 1.7 million, and the goal is 180,000 recruits. That means you'd need to convince every 1 in 10 eligible person to enlist. Even if the military was a glory-filled job, I doubt you'd get those numbers.
  - 0xbear 9y ago
    Numbers don’t line up. There are 30 million people in that age group in the US. 30% of that is nearly 10M. There may be fewer volunteers than that, of course, but that problem is fairly straightforward to fix: pay more, and get the hell out of the Middle East.
Animats 9y ago
Biggest single problem is obesity. There are just too many fat teen-agers. Second is a criminal record or drug abuse. Third is inadequate education; the US military requires high school graduation now. As of 2009 [1]: - 27% - too fat - 31% - other health problem The Army used to run fat recruits through a "fat farm" phase of 6 weeks of exercise. But they no longer do that. There's talk of bringing it back. The Marines want you in shape before you enlist. Marine recruiters help promising recruits get in shape before they enlist. [1] http://cdn.missionreadiness.org/MR-Ready-Willing-Unable.pdf http://cdn.missionreadiness.org/MR-Ready-Willing-Unable.pdf
- bambax 9y ago
  > The Army used to run fat recruits through a "fat farm" phase of 6 weeks of exercise. But they no longer do that. Why not?
  - Animats 9y ago
    They didn't have to bother during the recession.
flukus 9y ago
>If the problem was that there are so many eligible people, but nobody wants to volunteer, then you might be on to something. They way I read it this is the problem: > Once you take into account whether or not the remaining 9.7 million are enrolled in college — and that the Army doesn’t want the bare minimum for its future soldiers — the recruiting pool shrinks to just 1.7 million. The biggest contributor is 7 million college students not wanting to enroll even though they can get the military to pay for college. I bet bullshit wars on the other side of the world affects this number. Alternatively, maybe they just need fat camp as a pre-boot camp step.

0xbear 9y ago

29% is tens of millions of people. I just pointed out why people might be reluctant to volunteer.

parent5446 9y ago
Have you read the article? It says the effective recruiting pool is 1.7 million, and the goal is 180,000 recruits. That means you'd need to convince every 1 in 10 eligible person to enlist. Even if the military was a glory-filled job, I doubt you'd get those numbers.
- 0xbear 9y ago
  Numbers don’t line up. There are 30 million people in that age group in the US. 30% of that is nearly 10M. There may be fewer volunteers than that, of course, but that problem is fairly straightforward to fix: pay more, and get the hell out of the Middle East.

Animats 9y ago

Biggest single problem is obesity. There are just too many fat teen-agers. Second is a criminal record or drug abuse. Third is inadequate education; the US military requires high school graduation now. As of 2009 [1]: - 27% - too fat - 31% - other health problem The Army used to run fat recruits through a "fat farm" phase of 6 weeks of exercise. But they no longer do that. There's talk of bringing it back. The Marines want you in shape before you enlist. Marine recruiters help promising recruits get in shape before they enlist. [1] http://cdn.missionreadiness.org/MR-Ready-Willing-Unable.pdf http://cdn.missionreadiness.org/MR-Ready-Willing-Unable.pdf

bambax 9y ago
> The Army used to run fat recruits through a "fat farm" phase of 6 weeks of exercise. But they no longer do that. Why not?
- Animats 9y ago
  They didn't have to bother during the recession.

flukus 9y ago

>If the problem was that there are so many eligible people, but nobody wants to volunteer, then you might be on to something. They way I read it this is the problem: > Once you take into account whether or not the remaining 9.7 million are enrolled in college — and that the Army doesn’t want the bare minimum for its future soldiers — the recruiting pool shrinks to just 1.7 million. The biggest contributor is 7 million college students not wanting to enroll even though they can get the military to pay for college. I bet bullshit wars on the other side of the world affects this number. Alternatively, maybe they just need fat camp as a pre-boot camp step.