5 ms·should be no need for a "D"ual motor car, which likely didn't exist in 2013 anyway.by rconti 9y agoshould be no need for a "D"ual motor car, which likely didn't exist in 2013 anyway.tempestn 9y agoLooks like you're right; first year of the 85D was 2015. And yeah, not necessary, but nice in northern climates.rconti 9y agoAh yeah, sorry, I was thinking about it from a performance standpoint. Which is odd, since I have an AWD car specifically for snow (and I live in CA!)